Anyone know how to apply Same-gawa??

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I am just starting to get real serious in the areas of Japanese sword restoration and custom building of these fine weapons. I will also be providing reduced cost retail sales of the Paul Chen line of weapons through my new website at www.shadowofleaves.com in about a month. Does anyone have any knowledge they would like to share in the preparation and application of Same. Specifically the type of glue used. I am starting with very good quality same-gawa.

Thanks
 
All I use is contact cement. Make sure the cement on the Tsuka and Same is dry before you adhere the two together or else the same will start peeling away when you are trimming away the excess.

Hugh
 
First make a blank out of paper by fitting it around the tsuka and cutting it. Then transfer it over to the same and cut it out. Then soak the same in water until it is pliable then fit over the tsuka. It will take from 45 min. to as much as three hours to be ready. Wrap it with twine and trim it as needed. Then re-soke it. apply glue aroung the tsuka, tite bond wood glue will work, and fit it. Make sure to glue where the edges meet, then just wrap it with twine again and let sit for about 24 hours.
 
I have nothing to add to the above, but welcome to the forums and good luck in all your endeavors!

Dave
 
Hugh
What the same is gawa.
please explain, I'm just a knife guy.
You taking night school or hanging out on Centre?
:D :p
 
Hey there Robert. Same Gawa is the Japanese word for Stingray skin. I'll be posting a pic in the near future of a piece I should have ready next week with a blood red, Same underlay. If you promise not to get flux on it, i'll let you hold it:D

Respectfully,

Hugh
 
Alright...nice to see yer getting into the sword gig. If you had posted this over on the Sword Discussion Forum, I probably would have seen it sooner.

If you want to go old-style, you can make a very simple rice paste. Over time the rice paste will of course be much easier to break than modern adhesives, but if you crack the tsuka core and don't want to buy another skin, it makes it easier to remove the same-kawa.

Wood glue would likely be another alternative and I would probably lean more toward that in modern stuff.

Just be sure you have the skin you like and that the nodules are the way you like them, get it soaked so it's pliable, set it up and let dry. When it dries, the stuff WILL contract a bit, so you might have to practice a little bit to make sure it doesn't pull the seam open and doesn't end up too loose or overlappy. If you have trouble getting a nice even seam, you CAN have the seam completely hidden by the wrap. More professionally, the seam shows on the side through the wrap but nobody will judge you negatively if you don't do it that way until you're comfortable with it. The only downside to this is that the seam of the same-kawa will be close to the seam of the core. This sacrifices a little bit of strength as I'm sure you can imagine, but if you are using a reasonably strong adhesive for the tsuka core, you should have no strength issues, PLUS in 99% of cases (excepting tanto), you will have the ito and the fuchi/kashira to eliminate any "strength" issue the handle would possibly have.

Good luck, and if you need any help feel free to email me or ask here on the forums.

Shinryû.

Addendum...I believe it was Charles Dean who gave a little more detail on an application process. I suggest you take that advice, as it will save you headaches. Again, good luck!
 
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