Anyone (Other Than Glockman 99) Suffer With The GOUT?!?

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I just got WHACKED yesterday :grumpy: , with a severe Gout Attack. I did a search on this Forum, and read some valuable info - mostly from Glockman. Anyone else suffering with this affliction? Glockman, your comments are certainly welcome, since you have suffered the most from it.

Mine has settled in the joint between the big toe and my foot, on both feet. This is not surprising, since I hace Arthritus there, and no cartlidge to speak of left there.

I would appreciate hearing for fellow suffers (Glockman & I can't be alone here). How do you cope? What kinds of Meds has your DR put you on? I'm presently taking Indocine 3X daily. Does this ever go away? What's the longest that you've been pain free? Is there such a thing as "pain free"? Thanks in advance for any input.

Ken
 
My Dad get gout. Indocin, colchicine and even Ibuprohen are some of the meds. Once the flair up he can't even stand placing a sheet on the toe.


Gout is uric acid crystals forming in the joint space. They're point and hurt. (SOmething you allready know). Heat is ok but donot put ice as cold will precipitate more crystals out.

SOmetimes foods will trigger: Shrimp and beer come to mind.


Paul
 
I sympathize, man. I get wicked gout, mostly in my right big toe, but left too and other places. The pain is wicked. Indocine is what I get. Take it early, take it often. I usually keep a bottle of it filled even if I don't have gout. The minute I feel an attack coming on I dose up and it usually doesn't get to the agony state. I have found the indocine to be a miracle medicine, although the OTC arthritis medications work a little bit. I also have tried some other kind of medicine, but it upset my stomach awful. Its supposed to work faster. You take like several doses the first day and taper off.

Also, I don't have it, but you can get a prescription for a pill to take every day that fends off the gout. I know one guy that uses it and says he's not had the gout since. My doctor said that diet has something to do with it, but if you get gout, its unlikely that a change in diet will completely alleviate the problem.
 
BEER??!!?? NO. NO - Don't say that!! How could you be so cruel!?!?

Actually, I've read that all alcohol can be bad for Gout.

Hey Ed, You got a spare cane I could use until this passes? :confused:

Thanks for the input!!
 
Shann said:
Also, I don't have it, but you can get a prescription for a pill to take every day that fends off the gout. I know one guy that uses it and says he's not had the gout since.
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I take 100mgs of Allopurinol twice a day, and I haven't had a gout attack for at-least a year now, where I was having a severe attack (left big toe) every month, lasting anywhere from 2-6 days. I also take 25 mgs of HCTZ (a diuretic) once a day, as that helps the kidneys flush out better.

I also don't eat things like liver, beans, sardines, crab, shrimp, and I don't drink any beer.

For those of you lucky bastids who have never experienced a severe gout attack, try to imagine your foot being on-fire, and at the same time, an elephant trying to stop out the fire on your foot...And that severe burning pain can last a couple days or even longer.
 
A guy I work with gets it occasionally. I know that excess dietary protein is very bad if you have problems with gout. I'm not sure if this causes it or not, but it's the only thing that I've heard that really (negatively) affects it.

Could you try a vegetarian diet for a week or so? That has helped the guy I work with. He also takes a lot of supplements and stuff, which he seems to think helps, and he's really studied up on nutrition and stuff, so I generally trust what he tells me.

I hope you feel better.

~ashes
 
A lady I once worked with told me that a good cure for gout was to eat as many fresh cherries as you could get down. She said that canned cherries would work, as well, but that fresh were best. I tried it once, with packaged cherries, and found that I couldn't stand them after a few.

I suffered from severe Gout until my heart bypass surgery in 1994. I have not had a single episode since then. I went on a strict low fat diet and exercise program and lost 65 pounds after the surgery and am sure that this is the reason.
 
Two or three yrs ago, at about this time, I had an attack in my right front toe. I thought it was gout. I took the gout medicine and got rid of it. It occurred two more times within a month and a half, and I took the medicine and it went away relatively easily.

Nothing happened since then until this past Saturday. My left big toe went through the exact same thing as the right one yrs earlier.

This is what stumps me, however. The condition started out gradually, with a feeling of stiffness and a bit of soreness. The stiffness and pain got worse until it was quite painful and swollen, two to three days later. Everything I have read about single-joint gout (mono-arterial), and everyone I have spoken with who has had it, describes the condition as quite acute; with the pain and swelling being full-bore immediately.

My condition was never like this. And it never really hurt as much as people describe. It hurt, to the point where I had to limp considerably, but not to the point where it was extreme while lying still.

I'm definitely a candidate for it, since my Dad has it, and I eat plenty of red meat and drink too much beer (good beer, however). It sucks, because I really have a good diet. I don't eat any processed foods, not too many sweets, and never eat fast food. I eat plenty of fruits and veggies.

A lot of the good foods are gout-aggravators, it would seem.

Has anyone else had gout that came on slowly, like what I have had?

Or could it be something else?

BTW, I have gotten rid of this last attack with two ibuprofen tablets every 4 hrs. Would gout be that easily treatable?

edited to add: Thanks Mike H for that tip! I remember reading about that during my last episode. I think it works.
 
Thanks for all the tips and advice. I just read about the cherries, and cherry juice is supposed to be good too. The odd thing is that I have really been watching my diet lately. Very little red meat, almost all whole grains, I even found a brown rice pasta that tasted decent; also no bleached, processed, or fried foods. And I don't drink that much beer!!

All I know is that it hit me out of the blue, as I got out of my car Monday morning - Both Big Toes. I could barely walk. When I did try, it was on the heels and side of my feet. The ball of my foot couldn't come in contact with anything. After a day and a half on the Indocine, I am able to bear some weight on it. I'm back in work right now, but not sure for how long. I'm seeing a Podiatrist on Monday. Until then, I'll play it by ear. Thanks again.

Ken
 
komondor said:
Has anyone else had gout that came on slowly, like what I have had?

Or could it be something else?

BTW, I have gotten rid of this last attack with two ibuprofen tablets every 4 hrs. Would gout be that easily treatable?

edited to add: Thanks Mike H for that tip! I remember reading about that during my last episode. I think it works.
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My gout comes on slowly. If I get on the indocine in the first couple days, it doesn't get worse than a sore big toe. I don't know if the ibuprofen would work, but my doctor said that arthritis medicines alleviate gout. He also described gout as "exquisitely painful".

It feels like somebody puts broken glass into the joint of your big toe and then hits it with a hammer, while using a belt sander on the skin.
 
I'm a gout victim, too. Had it since I went from working as a truss monkey (very active lifestyle, no money for food) to computer work (sedentary). It got so bad that I went through a period about a year and a half ago wherein I was almost continually in a state of low-grade attacks (with really acute ones every week or so), and it was driving my doctor crazy.

The main thing that was driving her crazy was that I didn't do any of the things that should cause gout. I'm only 33, don't eat red meat or shellfish (gave them both up years before the gout ever appeared) or drink. I was (and still am) a little over my 'ideal weight,' but not particularly obese. She tested me for just about everything. Diabetes, too much Iron in the blood, Renal meltdown, Karmic imbalance, and Gremlins...if you could conceivably link it to gout, I got poked and prodded for it. Nothing. When we moved out of the area, after three years of almost constant testing, she was no closer to figuring out why I seemed to prone to gout than when she started. The only indicator we were ever able to come up with was that I've had frequent and multiple bone breaks, all over my body. That, and something else I've recently realised, help to explain why I got gout in almost every extremity below my neck at one time or another in the last ten years.

What was the other realisation? Circulation. Uric acid is delivered into the joints by blood. It seems to precipitate out of the blood and settle in the joints because of varying levels of dehydration and sluggish circulation. My resting pulse rate has been as low as 25-30 bpm, when I was at the nadir of fitness! I noticed, though, that when I was working out, pushing myself to try and get into Police Academy, my attacks stopped altogether. When that effort petered out, the attacks came back, worse than before. I didn't really think too much about it until recently, because I was working out at other times, and it didn't seem to help. I'm guessing that my particular system needs to be pushed pretty hard to get my heart rate up and keep the ol' red wine sluicing. I went into academy after we moved, to become a Correctional Officer. Very PT-oriented, and I haven't had a gout attack in months. Not a full-blown one, at least. I would get twinges, when I got home, where I felt like it was coming on after I peeled out of my shoes. Now that I'm on the job, and on my feet for thirteen hours or more each day, I notice it even more.

If I tie my boots too tight, when my feet swell during the day, it restricts blood flow, and my joints start to ache up. If it gets too bad, I'll pop an Indocine when I get ready for bed (man, that stuff is great for swelling and pain, but it knocks me on my BUTT with dizziness and drowsiness!! :grumpy: ). Then the next day, I remember to keep my shoes looser. It's been a fine line, so far, between blisters and gout :D .

This is just my observation...YMMV. Also, I keep several bottles of Black Cherry Juice in the pantry, in the event of attack. I find that it does the same thing as Colchicine (even the diarrhea part), but it only costs about $3 a bottle, instead of $25 for a bottle of twenty pills. I find that about two bottles is enough to Roto-Root my system utterly. Draws that Uric acid right out...just make sure you drink plenty of water, or else you're at cross purposes because of the dehydration. Isn't gout fun?!? :rolleyes:

Welcome to the Brotherhood of the Toe. Wish you weren't here! ;)
 
My last and worse attack came on about a year ago on my way to Florida for a vacation. The intense pain lasted about 7 days, and I could still feel it for a couple of weeks afterward. I literally couldn’t do anything. But you guys know that. I haven’t tried Indociun. The Doc has me using Colchine, and I’m not so sure it does much. It seems I get an attack about once a year.
 
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The Gout

James Gillray, 1799

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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but this one suddenly became relevent to me. Spent the morning in the emergency room and the preliminary diagnosis is gout in my left ankle. The ankle was giving me trouble yesterday and by nightfall I couldn't walk at all. I have Ibuprofen (400mg) and Colchicine. I'm like Kalindras in that I'm going to be 33 this year and I don't eat red meat or pork (since '94). I don't eat crab and lobster at all and eat shrimp probably less than once a month. I don't drink or smoke at all either and don't know of any family with it. I do have a weight problem but that's probably the only gout related issue I have.

Anyway, I wanted to vent a little and also see if anyone had any updates on their gout issues. This sucks big time.
 
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