Anyone own both the R Murphy Canadian Belt Knife and the Grohmann?

[Marion David Poff]

Anyone own both the R Murphy Canadian Belt Knife and the Grohmann?

I was wondering if they are really that close, or if there are some subtle differences....

Maybe it is just me, but the Murphy seems wider in the blade?

Marion

 

[revolverman357]

I only have the Murphy.

 

[Marion David Poff]

I only have the Murphy.

How long have you had it?

And what do you think of it?

Marion

 

[revolverman357]

Well, I've had it for a good 9 months. I use it mainly for cooking and general camp chores. When I got it, it was very dull and took some time working with the edge.
It is very sharp now and does keep it's edge once applied. I removed the thumb cerations (jimping) with a file and made that area flat to strike a firesteel.
It feels nice in the hand, rosewood scales are good quality, and the knife is easy to work with. Actually, it quickly became my go to knife, I own other BRKT and BHK knives and such, but for $20.00 you can't beat it. I use a JRE sheath for a Mora 510. It fits well. I am thinking now about purchasing some other models of Murphy knives.

 

[Marion David Poff]

Well, I've had it for a good 9 months. I use it mainly for cooking and general camp chores. When I got it, it was very dull and took some time working with the edge.
It is very sharp now and does keep it's edge once applied. I removed the thumb cerations (jimping) with a file and made that area flat to strike a firesteel.
It feels nice in the hand, rosewood scales are good quality, and the knife is easy to work with. Actually, it quickly became my go to knife, I own other BRKT and BHK knives and such, but for $20.00 you can't beat it. I use a JRE sheath for a Mora 510. It fits well. I am thinking now about purchasing some other models of Murphy knives.

Nice. Thanks for the mini-review.

I looked over their catalog, and it does not excite me.... I kinda liked one model, but they only offer it in stainless... If only they still made a pure boning style in carbon, like the old one they made for Herters, but without the hump/bonbe/turret, or whatever....

Marion

 

[revolverman357]

Another thing about this knife, the tip was sort of blunted when I got it. So, with a good sharpening and a reprofile edge retention is good, but it does need work. I smoothed out the handle and it works for me. The patina came fast, of course I bought this knife to abuse somewhat so when I got done cutting fruit or veggies, spreading condiments, it never really got cleaned for a few days at a time. I look forward to dressing some small game with it to see how it performs.

If you have a Mora you probably don't need this knife. I have this so, Ima gonna use it.

 

[Marion David Poff]

Another thing about this knife, the tip was sort of blunted when I got it. So, with a good sharpening and a reprofile edge retention is good, but it does need work. I smoothed out the handle and it works for me. The patina came fast, of course I bought this knife to abuse somewhat so when I got done cutting fruit or veggies, spreading condiments, it never really got cleaned for a few days at a time. I look forward to dressing some small game with it to see how it performs.

If you have a Mora you probably don't need this knife. I have this so, Ima gonna use it.

Yeah, I like this design, and had a CS version but gave it away. I was also considering getting it to make sheaths for it, but I doubt the demand is very high. So, I may still buy it, as I want one of this pattern, but I will probably wait until I do another Bens Backwoods order, and buy this and a Zebra.

Marion

 

[d_filgate]

I've owned a few Grohmann's, and still own a #2 Bird and Trout knife.
My brother has found a way to liberate me of my #4 Survival and #3 Boat knives
Despite my best efforts to get the #4 back, he has so far resisted the temptations
that I've put before him

They are good knives to use. I had issues with the #3 Boat knife with the
way the handle was laid out in relation to the blade, but my brother loves it
that way, and the #3 is one of his favorite knives.
The #2 Bird and Trout knife sits in the kitchen knife block and gets used all the
time for kitchen prep duties. It's stainless, so there aren't many issues with
it for food prep.
The #4 is a fair bit heavier, and would make a pretty good outdoor knife for
all round camp chores. I think that it's a little bit too light for chopping, but
it works fine for batoning through wood. I've used it that way, and my brother
has also. For a larger outdoor knife, I would prefer something a little bit heavier
though.
I haven't had the opportunity to get a Grohmann #1 knife yet, but hope to do so
in the future. If I do, it will be in carbon, not stainless steel. Grohmann's Stainless is
ok, but I've noticed with the #2 that it gets dull quickly.
Putting an edge on any of the Grohmann knives that I've had was pretty easy.
I always carry a DMT Diafold Diamond file, and have used that to sharpen with no issues.


Cheers

 

[Brad "the butcher"]

no experience with herter's but my family has used grohmann's for a couple generations.
made my #1 original kit knife at the world scout jamboree in 1982. It still gets rotation for nostalgia.
I like their knives and make good affordable field blades. Their carbon and stainless hold a pretty good edge and are easy to sharpen, don't know the rockwell but seems similar to knives I have at 56 - 58.
Is it just me or is the #4 very similar to a nessmuk?

They really excel at food/kitchen prep in camp with the backswept blades and handles. Your knuckles don't hit the table and you can use most of the blade.

 

[TStetz]

I've had a Grohman and have a Murphy. Same basic style but the handles on the Murphy are much chunkier. The tip on mine was also blunt, as were the ones on a friends. It was easy to fix with a file though. The sheath that comes with it is very basic. Sturdy, but generic. I'd replace it if I ever end up really using it. I got it and the other Murphy's from Ben's mostly just because I wanted them.

On my Grohman, I was never happy with the edge it took. That was the stainless model. I thought the Carbon steel on the Murphy might work out better. Still need to really put that to the test though.

 

[Marion David Poff]

I've owned a few Grohmann's, and still own a #2 Bird and Trout knife.
My brother has found a way to liberate me of my #4 Survival and #3 Boat knives
Despite my best efforts to get the #4 back, he has so far resisted the temptations
that I've put before him

They are good knives to use. I had issues with the #3 Boat knife with the
way the handle was laid out in relation to the blade, but my brother loves it
that way, and the #3 is one of his favorite knives.
The #2 Bird and Trout knife sits in the kitchen knife block and gets used all the
time for kitchen prep duties. It's stainless, so there aren't many issues with
it for food prep.
The #4 is a fair bit heavier, and would make a pretty good outdoor knife for
all round camp chores. I think that it's a little bit too light for chopping, but
it works fine for batoning through wood. I've used it that way, and my brother
has also. For a larger outdoor knife, I would prefer something a little bit heavier
though.
I haven't had the opportunity to get a Grohmann #1 knife yet, but hope to do so
in the future. If I do, it will be in carbon, not stainless steel. Grohmann's Stainless is
ok, but I've noticed with the #2 that it gets dull quickly.
Putting an edge on any of the Grohmann knives that I've had was pretty easy.
I always carry a DMT Diafold Diamond file, and have used that to sharpen with no issues.


Cheers

I have wondered that about the #3. I had a #4, and now I want one again, but this time I will probably make it flat ground and carbon.

no experience with herter's but my family has used grohmann's for a couple generations.
made my #1 original kit knife at the world scout jamboree in 1982. It still gets rotation for nostalgia.
I like their knives and make good affordable field blades. Their carbon and stainless hold a pretty good edge and are easy to sharpen, don't know the rockwell but seems similar to knives I have at 56 - 58.
Is it just me or is the #4 very similar to a nessmuk?

They really excel at food/kitchen prep in camp with the backswept blades and handles. Your knuckles don't hit the table and you can use most of the blade.

Thanks.

I've had a Grohman and have a Murphy. Same basic style but the handles on the Murphy are much chunkier. The tip on mine was also blunt, as were the ones on a friends. It was easy to fix with a file though. The sheath that comes with it is very basic. Sturdy, but generic. I'd replace it if I ever end up really using it. I got it and the other Murphy's from Ben's mostly just because I wanted them.

On my Grohman, I was never happy with the edge it took. That was the stainless model. I thought the Carbon steel on the Murphy might work out better. Still need to really put that to the test though.

Chunkier handles on the Murphy? Good. Thanks for that information on the Grohmann stainless, seems like the consensus...


Marion