Anyone tell me how to deploy a KFF fast ?

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I recently bought a CRKT KFF out of curiosity more than anything and was pleasantly surprised. A really heft LARGE folder but I couldnt figure out how to deploy it quickly from my front ants pocket. The thumb stud allows you to flick the blade open and it does so with a loud CLACK. Nice. But could I do it quickly like I can with my large Spydercos? Er, no. So any suggestions please.....

Ken
 
I don't know what to tell you Ken, I have the large and small, both are fast and smooth? Maybe it'll just take you some getting used to?
 
You get them to open fast the same way you get to Carnegie Hall: Practice. (Sorry if that joke isn't big in the UK)

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ha! i get it!you said carnegie hall......
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Deploy by using the common wrist flick method. Adding some grip tape/ friction tape on the pocket clip and the scale/ blade pivot area of the opposite side will help the thumb and fingers get some bite and will make extracting from the pocket much more secure and quicker.

BTW, if you really have ants in your pocket you shouldn' t have a problem.
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L8r,
Nakano

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[This message has been edited by Nakano 2 (edited 09-08-2000).]
 
Sorry.....should have read PANTS pockets!!! :-)

I have been trying but I am having trouble extracting the knife from my pocket (side of my front jeans pocket) and getting the knife quickly into a position to comfortably snap the blade out. I thought that it was just me with the slippery palms, it seems that others find the scales a little smooth! I'd like a checker pattern or some slabs of kraton on the rear scale for some grip.

Okay.....practice it is! Oh BTW what is Carnegie Hall?? When I was at University, my halls of residence was called that! Didnt know what it was though! DOH!
PS. Anyone know what Bob Kaspers URL is?

[This message has been edited by Ken Lau (edited 09-08-2000).]
 
Ken,

The fastest way to get the KFF into action is to have the blade deployed already in an IWB sheath. I'm working up one of my Drawpoint IWBs for a CRKT distributor now, along with some other goodies for the CRKT line of knives. I'll let you know how it comes out.

Mike
 
Mike,
Stupid question.....what's an IWB sheath? DO let us know when you get one sorted...
Cheers
Ken
 
Ken, it sounds like an inside-the-pants holster that would hold your folder locked open. Nice for speed draws, but be careful you don't stab yourself.
 
IWB="Inside (the) WaistBand".

A very good way to carry a knife concealed, or "out of the way".
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Carnegie Hall: An opera/classical music/etc. house(hall) in New York City.
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The CRKT KFF opens faster than my Spyderco Endura II. Liner locks seem to have much less resistance than lockbacks.

 
Ken Lau,

I also purchased and carry a large KFF. Very nice blade and construction. I also had a problem getting the knife out of my front pocket.Deploying the blade wasn't the problem, it was getting the knife out. My solution was to attach a strand of parachute cord in the lanyard hole. The cord is 1.5 times in length compared to the knife when closed. I tied knots on the end of the cord and when I insert the knife in my pocket the cord ends stick out. On the draw , I use my thumb and index finger to grab the KFF and my lower two fingers (pinkie and finger above it) to grab onto the cord ends. Now the knife pops out without any problems. Hope this helps.
 
Don't fall in the water with your KFF in your pocket or you will drown because of the weight! Seriously I called CRKT and asked if they could make a skeltonised version to cut the weight. I was told it was not planned. If enough people phone maybe they will do it!
 
I would love to tell you how to deploy a KFF fast, but I am a slow typist
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David
Thanks folks, and remember to tip your waitresses.

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I have owned and carried a CRKT KFF for about a month now and work with it every day. The fastest way I've found to get it into action is, in one smooth motion, withdraw it from your pocket using a pinch grip and then throw it at your opponent. While they are struggling to pick themselves up from under this weighty bad boy, you will then have time to stroll leisurely away to your nearest knife shop and purchase a Spyderco Military, or maybe send away for a REKAT Sifu.

Okay, seriously. There is a lot to like about this knife. From the testing that I've read, it has tremendous steel and cutting ability. I especially like the lock up feature. I train in both Master at Arms Keatings Bowie Knife program and FMLA short knife and the back cut is now a major technique. I have a carpet dummy hanging up on my back porch, and at this time, this is the only folder I have which I would trust to back cut with.

BUT, to access, open and lock this puppy up is one complicated process which requires some very fine motor skills. And frankly, under the stress of a lethal force encounter, I don't think the adrenal dump would lend itself to this very complicated chain of events.

Think about it. First you access the knife with some form of pinch grip, after clearing your pocket you then do the semi-circle shake swinging the knife down and then back up with a sudden stop at the end to swing the blade into position, then you still have to push the secondary lock into position with your thumb. So far, the best approximate time I've been able to accomplish this in is about 3 times as long as it takes to open my Cold Steel Vaquero Grande. And that is only when the secondary lock lever isn't catching in my pocket.

I originally bought the KFF as a fill in while I'm waiting to get my Sifu, because I do want to have a folder with which I can backcut. Sadly beyond the complicated access/lockup, even after you get it out you still only have a 3.75" blade which weighs about three times more than it should. In my experience one of the main factors for making up for lack of blade length is speed. But the weight of the KFF really cuts down on it's speed. On a longer knife, with a 5-6" blade, a heavy handle is an asset because it acts as a lever to get that point to fly. The short blade of the KFF doesn't take advantage of this principle.

I will continue to work with this knife because I do have time and money invested in it, and it does have some nice attributes. And it's nice to develop skills with a wide variety of tools. But it will be retired when the Sifu arrives. Maybe a X-mas present for one of my less tactically oriented sons-in-law.

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