AOL story just got to me a little...

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So I sign on my mozilla/aol homepage and see a story about a 6 year old kid who bought a "weapon" to school.

Turns out he just joined the boy scouts and was excited about a fork, spoon, knife folding combo he got and took it with him to eat his lunch with...

To top it off AOL asks the question "how do you feel about zero tolerance policies against weapons in schools"

Like that question has anything to do with this story... If eating utensils are not allowed the you might as well get rid of scissors and pencils and those compass tools that I used in elementary school, they are more dangerous and theirs enough of them for everyone!

thats all I have to say about that.
 
Yup read the article in the New York Times.
45 days in reform school was the judgement.
 
Wow, that's pretty sad that they consider it a weapon. I can understand their reasoning as to why children shouldn't be bringing knives to school, but it's still ridiculous that they sent the kid to reform school for 45 days.

But you also have to think about the schools liability if that kid accidentally cut someone or hurt himself, people sue whether it was an accident or not. As much of a knife knut I am, I agree with no knives in school. Now in late highschool years when people are more responsible (for the most part) I believe they should have the right to carry knives, but that's another story.
 
Here is the e-mail address for Dr. Marcia Lyles, the superintendent of the school district. Respectfully share some common sense for the sake of our children's future.
 
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So this is a true story. I'm teaching my field course a couple of years back. For this one set of samples we have to store the collected water in glass chars. Glass jars on a metal boat is never a great thing, but you learn to deal with it. This one student, we'll just call him Michael (because his real first name was Michael), drops the sample and the glass jar shatters on the boat. I'm in the cabin giving instructions to a couple of other kids on how to read the chart. I hear the jar break and look and see him pointing at the broken glass. I bark 'Okay clean that up'. He just keeps pointing at the mess. I get up and say, okay you broke you clean it up. He responds, its broken glass and dangerous. I might cut myself. I point out to him that he is wearing split leather gloves on his hands and point to a plastic bucket. He tells me he never had to clean up glass and he's worried about getting cut. This is a 23 year old.

The problem with kids these days is that they really are being raised as sheeple. Not only when it comes to tools and objects, but also when it comes to managing their own time and making decisions. I have about 15 kids out of my graduating class who have made it to 4th year university and never had a job. They have no idea what corporate culture is.

I hope this doesn't seem off topic, but it is kind of related. This vilifying tools, not teaching kids how to respect tools and teaching them to fear them instead. Even treating them as criminals and talking about what if's, could have happened, when nothing actually happened. Society is going to the crapper as fast as our economy. I'm fearful very fearful of this new generation of virtual activity kids we are rearing.
 
kgd said:
I hope this doesn't seem off topic, but it is kind of related. This vilifying tools, not teaching kids how to respect tools and teaching them to fear them instead. Even treating them as criminals and talking about what if's, could have happened, when nothing actually happened. Society is going to the crapper as fast as our economy. I'm fearful very fearful of this new generation of virtual activity kids we are rearing.
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ron_m80 said:
Yup read the article in the New York Times.
45 days in reform school was the judgement.
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The kid is 6! He can't even read the school rules yet!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm not sure i could be level headed if my kids school did something stupid like this.
 
Dr. Marcia Lyles,

I find the actions of the school district of Delaware in the case of Zachary Christie to be deplorable and without the logic concurrent with the mission of an educational institution. Clearly you care not for the core values of our country. Clearly you are not trying to encourage logic and thoughtfulness in children instead opting to teach blind faith and empty headed allegiance to whatever mandate is brought before them.

I am deeply saddened by the ignorance that still dominates America’s culture, the simple presence of a sharp object in a school causing in and of itself a breakdown in the educational process is shameful. The lack of judgment and discretion in the findings of the review board are even more disturbing, but they do reinforce the studies of “pluralistic ignorance”. I guess I will have to learn to live with the fact that people no longer seek to do right, but rather choose to do what’s easiest for them no matter who they hurt in the process.

Regards,
Ron
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There is mine.
 
Mrs.Shotgunner11 said:
The kid is 6! He can't even read the school rules yet!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm not sure i could be level headed if my kids school did something stupid like this.
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If they did this to my seven year old I would not be calm nor collected.
 
kgd said:
The problem with kids these days is that they really are being raised as sheeple. Not only when it comes to tools and objects, but also when it comes to managing their own time and making decisions. I have about 15 kids out of my graduating class who have made it to 4th year university and never had a job. They have no idea what corporate culture is.
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I hear you man, I being a kid (19) myself can speak from my point of view seeing most of my peers as brainless media fed sheeple. Seriously, when you're going into college how do you not know how to take care for yourself? Countless people that don't know how to (a) do their own laundry, (b) clean (literally they don't know what windex does), (c) unplug a toilet (yeah that's right, they don't know how to use a plunger). I also get the honor of being surrounded by peers/sheeple that think when I take out a knife I'm going to start stabbing everyone around me. :grumpy:

I'm going to do the "it's not the kids fault" preach and say that is more of the parents fault for not raising their kids effectively. Given I grew up in a somewhat broken family so I had to learn a lot of these things on my own, but there's no excuse for complete ignorance.

Culture has evolved so much that most people don't even own/use tools. And of course knives are weapons and not tools because who needs a knife to open up a package when there are tabs you can use or easy tear away sections. But back to the story, I think the school's actions on the situation are uncalled for. The kid didn't know any better, but the parents should've told him not to bring knives to school. There are reasons for rules, but to treat the kid like a criminal because he didn't know right from wrong is ridiculous.
 
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