AP Limited BOLO - Post #1

Andy Prisco

Andy Prisco

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Hi All...I can't thank all of you enough for all of the e-mails and posts of interest and support on the BOLO project. Let me say that I am extremely excited about it, and want to ask a few questions to you to help finalize the specs.

What is implicit for the project is that the BOLO will be made from premium INFI and have an E handle. I would like to leave "options" out as much as I can for this particular stage of the discussion and try to determine as many standard features as we can. It should also be noted that the knives will possibly be numbered.

For now, let's leave price aside for Post #2 and just deal with the following...

1) Coated, Bead Blast, or Satin - (this is a big issue and affects affordability ultimately....satin being the most expensive to accomplish and coated the least.) Just sound off on which one you would want.

2) Size - BM or SH size (...the BOLOS at Variant HQ are BM size)

3) Fully plain or partially serrated edge- (if partially serrated, that's the way it would be for now, period. I am also aware that this is contingent on everyone flipping out on the new Busse serration pattern, which is nothing short of brilliant)

4) Tip Grind - as all Busse Combat Knives are, the grinds will be full to the top, but the tip is open for suggestion...right now, at Variant HQ there is a willow point and a clip point...which do you prefer? It should be noted that the Willow does lighten and quicken the knife a great deal.

5) Sheath - options are OK here - custom leather (a little extra $$$), kydex or cordura w/kydex liner?

6) Logos - sterile or laser etched/marked some how with Busse Combat and AP Limited?

My thanks in advance...

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Hey All-

I'm a customer of Andy's (E-handled SH on order), but this is my first post to the forum. As per Andy's request, here are my thoughts on the Bolo project.

1) I'd go with a satin finish. This is an elegant blade, and this is the finish that will show this to the greatest extent. For a blade like this, I'd like to see the fit and finish jump out at you!

2) BM size, by all means!

3) I'd go with a plain blade myself. I'm sure that the serrations will work well, but I don't know what it would do to the
esthetics of the blade, or the functionality for that matter. This kind of blade strikes me as more of a rapier than a broadsword. (Pardon the Pun..)

4) Personally, I'd go for the willow clip point with the top edge sharpened. -or at least with a good bevel that could be easily sharpened by the owner.

5) I'd like to see a leather/kydex covert carry option for this blade, as well as a kydex field sheath.

6) Busse Combat/AP Ltd markings, by all means! I know it's heresy, but some people will want this blade as an investment, or just pride of ownership.

...and that's my $.02 worth. Conceptually, I see this piece as more of a ltd edition pure fighter made by Busse. People may go out and chop trees with it, but I don't think that will be the norm. I know that I wouldn't be using it to clear brush! (unless I was really "in the sh*t!")

I will be interested to see what the group concensus is with this blade!

Steve





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1.) Coated. I would like it to match my Basics and I like black bladed knives.
2.) BM size, of course... or maybe even a tad larger.
3.) Partially serrated toward the handle.
4.) Willow.
5.) Kydex.
6.) Doesn't really matter.

I will not buy this blade for aesthetic purposes but to put to hard use, so anything that will keep the cost down is a plus. I also do not care if it "looks pretty" as function will be the main purpose. Satin finish will just get scarred up. The serrations will increase its utility. I spend a lot of time in/around water so kydex is a must as well as a coating.

My $.02-
Orion
 
1)Prefer black then satin as a second
2)BM or slightly larger
3)PLAIN, PLAIN, PLAIN
4)Willow
5)Kydex lined Corduda
6)Sterile

Oh, don't forget the full/round forward talon hole-not the flat/ground off one
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[This message has been edited by Strabs (edited 07-27-2000).]
 
As a Limited Edition I will not be using it.
I see this as an opportunity to have a premium grade collectors piece, as the BAttle Mistress Collector grade is.
1. Satin
2. BM size
3. Partially serated edge (new serration
pattern)
4. Willow point
5. Custom leather
6. Busse Combat and AP Limited with S/N

Go for the gold not the silver.
 
Numbered, limited addition: Go to towm.
Satin, 10inch at least, no serrations, no need to be sterile. Make it look smart for the collectors and charge for it.
Then do a no frills, coated one for users. One that I might buy.
 
  • Satin finish
  • Big, fat and nasty
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  • Partially serrated
  • Willow point
  • Beefy custom leather
  • Subtle logo (nothing too obnoxious) with Busse Combat/AP Ltd./Battle Bolo #(s/n)

What about handle materials? Save that one for Post #2, or is that not open for discussion?

Any thoughts as to whether this project will lead to a new "generic," less expensive Bolo offering from Busse Combat?

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[This message has been edited by Wulf (edited 07-27-2000).]
 
1. SATIN
2. PARTIALLY SERRATED OR FULLY SERRATED (DOESN'T REALLY MATTEER THOUGH)
3. BM SIZE
4. WILLOW POINT
5. KYDEX
6. ALLTHE MARKINGS

thanks and take care
collin
 
my .02$
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1) Satin, second option coated... Not a bead blast.

2) BM or more
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3) Plain, haven't seen the serrated one, may be if I see it I'll like it more, donno now
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4) either.
5) kydex for field use.
6) laser etched with Busse Combat and AP Limited
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Have Fun,
Alligator
 
I agree w/ GREENJACKET.
Do a satin, serial numbered one with a nice leather sheath for the collectors.
Then do the "Busse Basic" version with the coated blade, serrations and kydex sheath. I may even go for both if the prices are reasonable!

Peace-
Orion
 
This thread is GREAT and REALLY helpful....keep it comin'!!!




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Andy Prisco, Manager
Sharper Instinct, LLC
Phone: 1-201-493-2469
Orders-Toll Free: 1-877-557-5200
Fax: 1-201-493-2039
Visa & Mastercard Accepted

Authorized Dealers:
Busse Combat Knives and Big East Traditional Bows

Professional Shooting Svcs: Corporate Training and Stress Mgmt.

Custom Variant HeadQuarters http://home.earthlink.net/~gregrnamin/andy/sharper.htm

Sharper Instinct Website www.sharperinstinct.com
 
Andy,
1)Satin, (I like the black blades but not on a limited project)
2)BM size
3)Plain, sorry I don't do serrations very often. If absolutely neccesary then partially serrated.
4)Willow point
5)Custom leather for a limited project
6)Must have laser etched with numbers if possible.
Thanks, I can't wait.
Eric


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Wow, great post Andy. Ok, here goes:

1. Satin finish. I'd also be curious to know if Jerry has ever considered investing in the equipment necessary to put a nice stonewashed finish on a blade. This has been a favorite feature of my Sebenza for some time, and I see that MT has now begun to use the process. Closes up the pores, resists scratches somewhat and looks cool as hell.

2. BM size or better. No question here. I would ask, however, that the amount of recurve be held to a minimum and that the blade remain wide throughout its entire length. Absolutely the only objection I had to the Variant page willow point bolo was that the blade got pretty narrow on the back half.

3. Partially serrated. I don't normally go in for serrations, but if only the last 1.5 inches or so were serrated, it might be a nice way to address that portion of the recurved blade that is difficult to sharpen with conventional means anyway. This area also lies outside the "sweetspot" for most chopping tasks anyway, so I don't think we would be sacrificing much to have the serrations.

4. Gotta love that willow point. If it doesn't detract from the blades chopping ability too much, I say that's the way to go.

5. Those Kenny Rowe leather sheaths we've been seeing on the Variant page lately sure are sweet. The only thing that might compare to that would be a Tim Wegner kydex/concealex sheath if such a colloboration were possible.

6. I think a small, tastefully executed etching or engraving would be appropriate for this project.

Andy, are you getting a feeling of deja vu here after having read my email a couple of months back? This may not be everyone's preference for the AP Limited bolo project, but how does it sound as the basis for a custom variant project?
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Semper Fi

-Bill
 
On second thought, I would want the blade definitely fully serrated
and black coating.

thanks and take care
collin
 
Here's my input:

1) Coated for users, and Satin for a "Collector's Grade".

2) BM Size, definately.

3) Partially serrated.

4) Willow point.

5) Cordura with a Kydex liner for users and nice leather for the "Collector's Grade".

6) Sterile for users, and etched for the "Collector's Grade".

Thanks Andy! This sounds like a NICE project!

--Robert

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My Knives
 
1) Finish: I like satin best, but depends on cost. This is a "user" for me, ain't not bee-yoo-tee-ful custom in my book, so if satin was more than $30 I'd go coated. And it is carbon steel, so coating solves part of the rust problem. Satin is easy to touch up with sandpaper or scotchbrite by the way.

2) Size - BM

3) Until I see the serration pattern, I'd say no serrations. Keep them to 1-1/2" to 2" MAX in length in any case.

4) Never heard of a willow point. Maybe somebody can point me to a pic. Until then, consider my vote "duh, gee Tennessee, I dunno".

5) Sheath - Kydex. Buyer's can have Kenny Rowe make them a leather sheath later if you are trying to hold down the "option list".

6) Logos - laser etched/marked some how with Busse Combat and AP Limited. Hell, it won't be any secret who made the blade for any "operatives" who care to find out. Where would laser etching go for coated blade? Tang?

Oh, and keep the recurve. It is a Bolo afterall, otherwise it's too close to the stock BM.

Sharpen the top edge of the clip if you have significant interest in this. Those of us who don't want it sharpened can easily scrub off the top edge in the dirt or on scotchbrite... bring it back to "butter knife" status.

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[This message has been edited by rdangerer (edited 07-28-2000).]
 
I've scratched my head on this one.
If you go short, under 10 inch, then willow point: fine unsharpened flat topped.
If you go long, over ten inch, then keep to the bolo principals.
Serrations just do not make sense with a bolo power knife, unless its for show in which case do some file work.
Keep the reverse curve long and shallow, with a staight bolow blade ie: not too heavy headed. Like the picture: sold abroad.
Deep brown mecarta fine chequered handles, that match the high grade leather sheath with best stitching.
Keep the weight under control.
It has just got to ouse quality and look, feel and handle great. A knife that people will sell up their collections for.
My knife, the plane jane, will have the same blade steel, but be very standard.
 
I'd have to say......

Coated
BM size
Plain, although that serration pattern sounds really interesting. If it's as good as you say it is andy, maybe an inch or two of that.
And i'd say cordura over kydex.
Multicoloured handles, if possible.

James

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1) Satin
2) BM Size
3) Plain Edge
4) Willow Point
5) Kydex
6) Busse Logo/AP Limited

Hope the price doesn't go too high.
This would be a COOL knife, I would like to be able to afford it.
 
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