How to hit apex and don't get it off center also how to know when its off center and how to repair off centered edges (already have some) i am a begginer i use lansky system with alimina-oxide stones! Should i time each side or maybe hit 30strokes each till get burr, because my mistake was sharpening one side long to get burr and when i flip the knife and sharpen on the other i get the burr in half the time of the 1st one and messed some edges.
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Apex off center
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I'm not a pro, but ... I set up equal angle (measured with an angle cube) on each side of the sharpener, then shoot for equal size bevel on each side. That seems to correlate to a centered edge when viewed along the blade. That's after getting a burr on each side.
Preventing the off center edge is the first step. To prevent an off center edge, examine the edge BEFORE you start grinding. Then form a plan. Most edges are not quite centered from the factory. Some are worse than others. Plan accordingly.
Start on the side the center is closest to. Most of the time this will be the side where the edge bevel is the smallest. Not always, but it's a good place to start. Spend more time on this smaller beveled edge. Check your work often. Before you get to "equal bevels" switch sides. Keep checking as you go.
If your edge bevels are pretty close, again start with the smaller bevel. Switch after some amount of work like perhaps one minute. This is highly dependent upon how coarse of a stone you are using and how fast you are grinding.
Again, check your work often.
Fixing a badly off center edge can take a lot of metal removal. Perhaps more than you really want to do. You can "cheat" a bit and cosmetically grind the edge to a wider bevel, thus making both sides appear to match in bevel width. Only you (or a very experienced knife person) will know that you really didn't grind the entire edge with that bevel width. This may or may not satisfy you, depending upon your reasons for wanting a centered edge with symmetrical bevels.
Pay attention to these factors on every blade you sharpen and try to improve the centering with every sharpening.
Good luck.
Brian.
Start on the side the center is closest to. Most of the time this will be the side where the edge bevel is the smallest. Not always, but it's a good place to start. Spend more time on this smaller beveled edge. Check your work often. Before you get to "equal bevels" switch sides. Keep checking as you go.
If your edge bevels are pretty close, again start with the smaller bevel. Switch after some amount of work like perhaps one minute. This is highly dependent upon how coarse of a stone you are using and how fast you are grinding.
Again, check your work often.
Fixing a badly off center edge can take a lot of metal removal. Perhaps more than you really want to do. You can "cheat" a bit and cosmetically grind the edge to a wider bevel, thus making both sides appear to match in bevel width. Only you (or a very experienced knife person) will know that you really didn't grind the entire edge with that bevel width. This may or may not satisfy you, depending upon your reasons for wanting a centered edge with symmetrical bevels.
Pay attention to these factors on every blade you sharpen and try to improve the centering with every sharpening.
Good luck.
Brian.
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No timing, no counting just make a burr, move to the other side, make a burr, now debur at the same angle with alternating passes used with zero pressure until burr is gone and edge is sharp. That's it.
The skill of it is making the bevel consistency through holding the same angle, making a very small burr evenly from tip to heel and deburring without changing the angle or crushing and rounding the apex underneath the burr.
The skill of it is making the bevel consistency through holding the same angle, making a very small burr evenly from tip to heel and deburring without changing the angle or crushing and rounding the apex underneath the burr.
Thank you you were very helpful
Not working for me, imma tell you why. when i satrt a knew knife on the system i work on side ''1'' it takes rly long time to hit apex and get burr and when i i go to work on side ''2'' i get the burr for halp the time and thats how i off center my apex, now i count 30 on ''1'' 30 on ''2'' till i get burr and it seems to work great for me!
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Well then, seems you didn't really have a question after all.
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Too each there own, not my place to tell you what's best for you, just sharing what I've learned. Take care
I know man
! Take care.
Take a look at my question again there is more than that, i am just a beginner i don't know these stuff, i don't know what i am talking about probably but still i am seeking help!
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For the purpose of responding to the poll I will say a count is more likely to give even wear to each side vs timed. The amount of wear per stroke is likely to be more consistent the the number of strokes per minute. So counting strokes is more likely to result in even, or comparatively even, edge grind than a timed method.