Are Rats and Busses heat treated the same?

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My guess would be yes, but I'm curious, so I thought I'd ask.
I was really impressed by the documentation that came with my Basic9, that said it was heat treated for over 80 hours. Amazing.
 
I would say yes.

Here's how it stands at this point in time. The Busse facility will be used during off-hours, (nights and weekends) in order to prevent the interruption of the everyday happenings of our regular business. Our original office space, which although on the same property, is housed in a different building, and has been remodeled. An entirely new staff has been hired to handle production and administration. The Swamp Rat production line will be run as a completely separate business, but will be a division of Busse Knife.

If they use the same facility, I would guess they use the same equipment. I am not sure though.
 
I'm 99.999% they are not the same. I say this because the heat treat on the Rats is 2 different rc hardness levels
 
Most of the rats if not all are differentially heat treated, thus not the same as Busse which are all treated, if that makes sense. If you strip a rat down, you can see the temper line marking the transition from the harder cutting edge to the softer "spine" for lack of a better term.
 
Progunner said:
Most of the rats if not all are differentially heat treated, thus not the same as Busse which are all treated, if that makes sense. If you strip a rat down, you can see the temper line marking the transition from the harder cutting edge to the softer "spine" for lack of a better term.
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Oh ya, I forget about that. :foot:
 
They are different steels so they would not be heat treated the same, though likely have similar goals performance wise.

-Cliff
 
Walking Man said:
My guess would be yes, but I'm curious, so I thought I'd ask.
I was really impressed by the documentation that came with my Basic9, that said it was heat treated for over 80 hours. Amazing.
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That is two weeks at 40 hours per week. There are two other secret ingredients in INFI during this process. As Jerry stated, he goes nto the oven with the knives. But what he didn't tell you is that the way the Nitrogen is introduced is via Nitrous Oxide gas within the oven, that's why he is always laughing. But it does not end there: Jerry eats a lot of Chilli and drinks much beer. So whn he is in the oven he has flatular problems as well as bladder issues. Part of the heat treat involves this other gas (methane) and Urea.

So INFI starts out as a basic steel as such = FeCrCoMoNiV

Then Urea is added Carbon (C) Nitrogen (N) Oxygen (O) Hydrogen (H)-CONH2
Methane is Carbon and Hydrogen (CH4)

The final formula is INFI = FeCrCoMoNiV + CONH2 + CH4 + 1500 degree oven heat = FeCrCoMoNiVCN + Hydrogen and Oxygen get burned off in the reaction.

some INFI has been found with Proteins and some sucrose in it as well, these are known as the Fatties...and they are stronger.
 
man.... 10,000 cliff. awesome....

heat treating would indeed be done differently for each steel... wich i was curious about on the infi bandicoots, since it was apperently an accident that they were made at all, i wonder if they were heat treated as 52100, or as infi.
 
SethMurdoc said:
man.... 10,000 cliff. awesome....

heat treating would indeed be done differently for each steel... wich i was curious about on the infi bandicoots, since it was apperently an accident that they were made at all, i wonder if they were heat treated as 52100, or as infi.
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That is a good question.
 
It is my understanding that the smaller Rats are thru treated, and only the larger ones are differentially treated.

While the Busse's are thru treated (58-60), I would thik that the protocols are different for the different steel types.

So, are they both heat treated, yes. Is it the "same", nope (at least doubtful).
 
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