Are there replicas of Busse?

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OmegaA

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Hello,
I bought BA3 knife. Comparing it with photographs of similar Busse BA3 knives I found that the edge on my knife is a bit different from the knives on internet. I wonder, is there anybody who makes replicas of Busse and sells them as original? How to recognise the original from not original without sending to the factory?
I asked the company and was told that they do not supply any letters with knives to confirm that the knife is original. Also, as I understood, only recently they started marking their knives with Busse logo.
Regards,
 
Omega,

Have anty pics??

I have seen another company market a model very close to the older Badger Attack, and call it the Badger, but have not yet seen anything that resembles the "current" BA3.

Post a pic if you can.
 
Thatmguy,
May I send it by email to you? I do not know how to post pictures here.
Regards,
 
No prob.

My e-mail is wood149479@aol.com

Let me know what your e-mail name is so I don't delete.

I normally delete anything unknown with attachments.

Or, title it Busse pics or something like that.

Thanks,
Mike
 
thatmguy said:
I have seen another company market a model very close to the older Badger Attack, and call it the Badger, but have not yet seen anything that resembles the "current" BA3.
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i noticed that last night while looking for a straight backed bowie/non tanto. when i really compared the two, it was definitely different... but way to close considering what they named it.
 
If it is a fake, it is a danged good one.

That is a SnakeSKin micarta handled BA3, and the kydex sheath looks like an Okuden IWB.

Nice setup, nice snag.
 
Thanks,
There are a few more things about which I am not sure. The first is I found the knife is asymmetrical when you look at it from the spine: the point where the grind line meets with the spine for the left side of the blade is different from the point where the grind line meets spine for the right side of the blade. If you look in details at the knife from the side, then you can see that the grind line on left side of the blade is different from the grind line on the right side of the blade. It is possible, that since the knife is close to custom knives, not mass production, it might be difficult to make one side of the knife exactly the same as the other side of the knife. Do you have such an asymmetry on your knives?
I did not have other Busse knives before, therefore I cannot say if the finish is proper, but it is not smooth (maybe to reduce reflection, I don’t know). I used it a few times in the kitchen and it does not shave any more (I tried to shave off hair from my hand). It is still sharp, but I thought that it would keep the scary sharpness for longer time. It does cut suspended paper from the printer, but not as good as it did before when it just went through without any problems under its own weight. Now I need to move it a bit to cut.
Regards,
 
Yes, I think it is common for the grind lines on Custom Shop pieces to be a bit uneven. Several of mine are that way at least. As for the finish, the satin finish should have a noticeable vertical grain to it - it's not a mirror finish.

If you're really paranoid though, perhaps thatmguy could post the pics and we can all throw in our opinions?

Jonathan
 
the edge that comes with it from the factory is generally a little obtuse in the angle department, but it has a very good finish (stropped and mirrored cutting edge) so it cuts extremely well even though it seems like it should (at 45+degrees both sides). i noticed how fast mySHBA lost its razory feeling from light use.

but, if you choose to resharpene it, somewhere in the 21-30 degree mark on both sides, you'll find that it keeps sharp a lot longer, just because of the edge geometry. a dull 45 degree edge feels a heck of a lot duller then a 21 degree dull edge.
 
Hello OmegaA,

The asymmetrical grind on your BAgIII is the factory edge. When sharpening, you only need to use a stone on the flat edge and then strop the convex edge. Of course, you can always contact the shop to send her home for a new symmetrical edge.
The black coating on your BAgIII is also factory. It is referred to as the Crinkle Coating. The coating used on older knives was smooth. The change was made after research determined that the Crinkle coating was much more durable. It will smooth out before it starts wearing off the blade.
As for sharpening, check out Bad MOJO. There is a link at the top of the left frame. You can also search the Busse forum here on BF.com for sharpening threads.

Hope that helps,
~Drew
 
I used my knife this weekend while camping. I placed a tree branch on a stone and began chopping. As a result, I hit the stone, twice. Now there is small damage on blade. I tried to make photos of the damage on the blade, but it is quite small that my camera does not pick it up. Here is question: Is it normal? Of course, for an ordinary knife it is normal, but I saw video how someone chopped concrete bricks with Busse and then could cut paper. Anyway, I see now that the blade is much stronger than blades on my other knives. Any recommendations how to correct the blade? The only sharpener I have is Spyderco Tri-Angle. I don’t want to send it to the factory because I live in Europe and it is quite a hassle to get a cheque in dollars to pay for postage.
Mike, could you post photos of my knife, please? I send them to your email. Here are links to photos of my knife:
http://i.guns.ru/forums/icons/attachments/28642.jpg
http://i.guns.ru/forums/icons/attachments/28644.jpg
http://i.guns.ru/forums/icons/attachments/27993.jpg
Regards,
 
OmegaA said:
I used my knife this weekend while camping. I placed a tree branch on a stone and began chopping. As a result, I hit the stone, twice. Now there is small damage on blade. I tried to make photos of the damage on the blade, but it is quite small that my camera does not pick it up. Here is question: Is it normal?
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You hit a rock with your knife and you wonder if it is normal that the knife might have "small" damage. No this is not normal, you should have large damage from hitting a rock with any knife. Is it normal for a Busse yes, if there is small damage that would be normal. Busse knives are near indestructable but they can be damaged, just like anything else. You have to use common sense when using them. When chopping I try not to have extremely hard objects directly behind or below the item that I'm chopping in case I miss.

If the damage is small there is no reason to try to correct it, just use the knife as you normally would and it will eventually sharpen out.
 
Fantastic imitation! I collect fakes like this one. I'll give ya an even $50 for it....I'll even take care of shipping :D
 
Eric Isaacson said:
Busse knives are near indestructable but they can be damaged, just like anything else. You have to use common sense when using them. When chopping I try not to have extremely hard objects directly behind or below the item that I'm chopping in case I miss.
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Eric, how about the words that Busse is made for abuse? :D Or I understood it too literally? :) The damage I have on the blade is like as if my knife has soft metal, therefore there are no chippings, only the metal on the place of impact became flat. But I have to look at the blade carefully to find the damage. And surprisingly the paint is not damaged at all.
Well, anyway, now I think I have the real Busse. Thanks to everyone.
Regards,
 
Yes, I would be very suprised to find a chip; however, your blade is far from soft. It's just tough as well. Don't let some rolls or compressions worry you; they just add character!
 
That is one of the beauties of INFI. It will not normally chip. It may roll a slight bit, but this can usually be steeled out and the edge realigned.

I haven't had any of mine do that even thru a few "misses"....
 
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