Are these stones good?

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Tacticaltimmy12

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I am starting to pick up old abused knives that need restoration work. I'm also looking at upgrading my collection to include some super steels. Would these two stones be sufficient to take badly damaged knives (or super steel needing reprofiling) to a super sharp mirror polish? I ask about mirror polish because several friends of mine are asking me to do sharpening and they want super sharp mirror polished edges. I am pretty good freehanding and can get really good edges with a mirror polish using my arkansas stones, but I'm looking to upgrade my system to handle badly damaged edges and super steel. Thanks for any feedback you can give.
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YES
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Yes those are totally excellent stones and for super, super steel like S110V.
But they are the worst thing you could use to produce mirror bevels.
Why ?
Diamonds are very scratchy and hard and the stones don't load up and produce a smoother surface the more it loads up.
Water stones on the other hand do all that good stuff without the scratchiness.
There are many many water stones capable of sharpening many of the mid line super steels.
And when a diamond stone maker puts "ultra fine" on the stone , in the realm of polished bevels, that is the equivalent of saying the stone is just slightly less marring than a rock out of your drive way.

Now there is a similar diamond stone for guided sharpeners labeled 8,000 that I have and it does in deed produce a some what polished bevel.
I ONLY use it on S110V.
Look at Shapton Glass stones. And for true polished bevels it is going to take at least five stones.
If you are correcting edge damage to begin with.
 
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Here you go.
This is kind of a "Sampler Pack" if you will.
This contains many of the different grit diamonds in the stones and for less than forty bucks you can try them out to see what I mean
I was using this set today, along with a few more stones that I bought to fill in the gaps.
I am NOT saying use this to sharpen knives, although they are very useful for drill bits and stuff.
And to ward off the no,no of posting this I would say buy them from one of the vendors that pay to support Blade Forums. I have had these for a decade and I have no idea who on here sells them.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002RL83DQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They are called :
EZE-LAP L PAK5 Set SF/F/M/C/XC Color Coded Diamond Hones
Here is a photo of some of my diamond stones and the set I am talking about is the yellow pouch lower left.
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As far as the Shapton Glass stones I use those when I want to get serious . . . in an Edge Pro
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Wowbagger said:
YES
and
NO !
Yes those are totally excellent stones and for super, super steel like S110V.
But they are the worst thing you could use to produce mirror bevels.
Why ?
Diamonds are very scratchy and hard and the stones don't load up and produce a smoother surface the more it loads up.
Water stones on the other hand do all that good stuff without the scratchiness.
There are many many water stones capable of sharpening many of the mid line super steels.
And when a diamond stone maker puts "ultra fine" on the stone , in the realm of polished bevels, that is the equivalent of saying the stone is just slightly less marring than a rock out of your drive way.

Now there is a similar diamond stone for guided sharpeners labeled 8,000 that I have and it does in deed produce a some what polished bevel.
I ONLY use it on S110V.
Look at Shapton Glass stones. And for true polished bevels it is going to take at least five stones.
If you are correcting edge damage to begin with.
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Thanks! That’s just what I needed.
I am mainly interested in diamond stones to remove damage and reprofile. For mirror edges I have water stones and Arkansas stones that I have used to put really nice mirror polished edges on my knives. Diamonds appeal to me cause I don’t want to spend forever cutting steel on damaged edges or on edges that need to be reprofiled, especially when it comes to working with super steel.
 
The stones Wowbagger is talking about for guided systems are these stones they also make pocket and a bench stone version as well,I do not know if you want a longer stone then the ones Wowbagger posted or not.
I myself prefer a diamond bonded stone then a diamond plate because the bonded one keep the diamonds in place and they do not tear off like they can on plates'.

https://www.gritomatic.com/collecti...roducts/dual-side-bonded-diamond-pocket-stone

https://www.gritomatic.com/collecti...monds/products/8-x-3-dual-side-bonded-diamond
 
For mirror-polished bevels on supersteels, DMT's EEF (8000-mesh/3µ) is the only one that'll get close, assuming coarse and fine scratches have been fully reduced in prior grit stages (using Fine, EF in sequence before the EEF). The EEF can start to produce a 'hazy' mirror, used as such. And then, following with diamond compounds on very firm or hard strops of wood, at 3µ and finer in succession, can get it all the way there.
 
Agree w/ above but one suggestion, don't go with the DuoSharp "Plus". Just go with the DuoSharps or the DiaSharps. I accidentally bought the "Plus" a while back and the mixed interrupted and non interrupted surface is more annoying that useful, IMO. Just get one or the other. DuoSharp for interrupted or DiaSharp for smooth surface.
 
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