Are we going back?

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I don't know of it's just me, but it seems like a very marked population is seeking something from the old days. In the automobile world, retro is in and selling very well. Mini's are still going like hotcakes, Fiat is now making a modern version of the old 500 that I remember from the early 60's, and The Mustang is still running fast. In the gun world, Cowboy action shooting is the fastest growing shooting sport beating out anything involving clay birds or black tactical firearms. Legions of grown men and women are dressing up in western clothing, and adapting names from old west history. The shoots have snakes like 'Thunder Valley" or "Trails End." A local gun shop now has fully one half of their store devoted to cowboy action shooting, and they can't keep up. You can walk in naked with a credit card, and walk out fully clothed and equipped for a trail drive to Dodge City, or an evening out in San Antone sitting across the poker table from a tin horn card shark. Around me, there's a cowboy action shoot very single weekend at a different club, and they all go from one to the other playing at the old west.

In knives, even though we've seen the fall of Schrade and Camillus, we've seen the rise of GEC, Northwoods, and of course Case seems to be doing well. But most of all, I'm happy to see many new people on this forum that are new converts to the traditional pocket knife. Refugee's from the world of black handles and thick blades, it seems like a lot of folks seem to have a growing appreciation of nice stag, bone, and knives that their grandfather would recognize and carry.

I have to confess, everytme I see a post by a new carrier of traditional pocket knives, I do the Walter Houston jig. I can't hep it, it feels good to know that there are some new folks coming to the forum with an appreciation of the old times, and the artifacts that people used then. I do know that the old timey stuff has a certain feel to it. I'm not sure what to call it, but some may go for the word soul. I've handled my share of modern knives, and I will admit they are strong, effective tools. So is a socket set or a 8 inch crescent wrench. Just like a Glock is a very very good gun. But there's something that is not there when you wrap your hand around them. A feel.

Grasp a Glock or a modern knife, and it's just a tool. But an old bone handled jack with the jigging worn shallow by the hand of a owner, or worn wood grips on an old revolver that has been carried many years by it's owner, and a feel comes through that the 'new' stuff can't match. No matter if it's a well worn old Texas jack with shallow jigging on bone, or an old trapper with age mellowed yellow stag and medium gray blades. It feels as good in the hand as it looks. It has that feel of 'soul'.

Well, I see there's a new post from a new traditional fan, so you'll have to excuse me. I have a jig to dance!:D

Carl, Grand high muckba of old things.
 
I believe that High and Muckba should always be capitalized, as befits your station.
 
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I am a big proponent of the theory of "Man is not meant to live this way"

this modern lifestyle has become to big, to fast, to much pressure and I believe you can see it in the increase of health issues, the increase in violence and the increase in mental issues. I truly believe society has spun out of control of humanity and we are all racing and struggling to keep up.

Cant take no time to go camping, because you cant miss work, and if you ARE off work, you gotta handle all the chores around the house that have piled up while you were working. This applies to a lot of things, enjoying nature, hiking, camping whatever. Sure I know alot of folks that can escape for a couple hours and hit the range or maybe a weekend of camping once a year. But i truly believe we never unwind, we truly relax and we havent in 30 years or better.

Heck, I am a prime example, my free time (ie days off) consist of 1) catching up on chores 2) catching up sleep and 3) catching up on whats been going online while i was at work. I got to go camping ONE weekend last year, went shooting i think twice with a buddy of mine and at 36 years old there is alot more salt than pepper on my head.

So for me, and I believe alot of other folks, the appeal of going back to a simpler time has a lot of appeal, almost a wistful longing. So i am absolutely not surprised.
 
That's a good subject, Carl. I wonder if some of it has to do with the influence of the Baby Boomer generation on their children and grandchildren. Being that there are so many of us, maybe some of this return to yesteryear is targeted at us too.

I'm curious to see what others think.
 
I agree they rush around but get little time to enjoy life Most of things in their lives are throw away now Plus I tell them to enjoy each day. When I gave a young man a Texas jack at Xmas and told him this will last 50 years :) tired of letting him use my red nut. Jake
 
Heck, I am a prime example, my free time (ie days off) consist of 1) catching up on chores 2) catching up sleep and 3) catching up on whats been going online while i was at work. I got to go camping ONE weekend last year, went shooting i think twice with a buddy of mine and at 36 years old there is alot more salt than pepper on my head.

So for me, and I believe alot of other folks, the appeal of going back to a simpler time has a lot of appeal, almost a wistful longing. So i am absolutely not surprised.

It's much easier to adjust to a slower/more relaxed lifestyle than many imagine. I go to bed between 7:30pm AND 9:00 PM every night and get 7 hours of sleep every night. I don't work excessive hours. Heck I don't work extra hours. Been there. Done that. Never again. I just prioritize. Not everything gets done. What must be done at work gets done. Not everything I'd like to get done must get done so some of it doesn't get done. We don't live in squalor but aren't worried about dust either. There are many weekends I never even put shoes on and my car isn't moved. Sometimes you just need to erase the calendar or refuse to put things on it. Sometimes you just have to tell others no. Sometimes you must tell yourself no.
 
Well, I am using a computer, and the big 'net in the sky to communicate this, and I admit, it has increased my writing skills.
But I'd rather be sitting on a bench, or across a table, with a cuppa whatever, and bragging/trading or just showing off about knives and whatever else!
I know a little about you all, but face to face is definitely the best.
But I guess I'd have to cover a lot of miles to know y'all tete-a'-tete!

Now, back from my tangent, I agree with you, Carl, 100%! Collectively, we seem to yearn for the instant appeal of well made cutlery, done in that hand-fitted style of old. Designed with an intuitive, ergonomic mindset, with an innate artistic sense, using pleasing materials that wear to fit the hand and pocket, old style pocket knives exist on a much more human scale.
Those big, thick, black-handled hackers seem fit for robots, and extra-terrestrials!!:eek: YOMV.

Are we going back?
I think we are back, just bringing more and more enlightened souls with us!!

(Sorry if this reads more like a wine tasting or something! This computer is indeed doing something to my writing, for better or worse!!):D

P.S. I was writing while you were writing, Leghog! I enjoy your post, and didn't mean to blow by you!
 
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... I do the Walter Houston jig...

Pics or it didn't happen :)

Agreed with all. A lot of modern stuff is well engineered in our CAD based manufacturing world, but seems to lack soul. It's the appliance manufacturing mindset. Produce it to meet the minimal set of requirements for the masses; they will then dispose of it in 18-24 months and buy a new one. Few things are made to last longer than 36 months.
 
Brings to mind that old Simon and Garfunkel song, "The 59th Street Bridge Song" (Feeling Groovy)

Slow down, you move too fast.
You got to make the morning last.
Just kicking down the cobble stones.
Looking for fun and feelin' groovy.

Hello lamppost,
What cha knowing?
I've come to watch your flowers growing.
Ain't cha got no rhymes for me?
Doot-in' doo-doo,
Feelin' groovy.

Got no deeds to do,
No promises to keep.
I'm dappled and drowsy and ready to sleep.
Let the morning time drop all its petals on me.
Life, I love you,
All is groovy.
 
Brings to mind that old Simon and Garfunkel song, "The 59th Street Bridge Song" (Feeling Groovy)

Slow down, you move too fast.
You got to make the morning last.
Just kicking down the cobble stones.
Looking for fun and feelin' groovy.

Hello lamppost,
What cha knowing?
I've come to watch your flowers growing.
Ain't cha got no rhymes for me?
Doot-in' doo-doo,
Feelin' groovy.

Got no deeds to do,
No promises to keep.
I'm dappled and drowsy and ready to sleep.
Let the morning time drop all its petals on me.
Life, I love you,
All is groovy.

That's it!! And I am NOT doing any chores today!!
 
My pocket knives are the only things I own that will be around long after I have gone,so I am looking after someone else's antiques. Feels good !
 
I don't know of it's just me, but it seems like a very marked population is seeking something from the old days. (...)

Carl, Grand high muckba of old things.

I hope we go back with music because today's music is pretty bad.

Same sentiment here. I was thinking about this recently, after hearing of the passing of Pete Seeger. Got to searching the web for audio/video clips of 'If I Had a Hammer' (co-written by him), and watched a couple of YouTube clips of Peter, Paul & Mary singing this song. I always liked their harmony, but was still blown away by Mary Travers' voice. Accompanied only by the voices and acoustic guitars of Peter & Paul, they needed no more than that. Pure talent, with no need for re-engineering or 'enhancing' voices electronically, as is so often the case nowadays.

Simplicity was (much) better then, and I still think it's the case today. Just don't seem to see it nearly as much as I'd like to, anymore, and that's a shame.


David
 
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I suspect most people into traditionals are over 50, its a nostalgia thing.
I do love a smooth handling knife, so my new GEC's get the emery paper treatment
a bit of smoothing, a bit of patina, and I can entertain myself for hours CFing and CEying

definitely fun to have the support of this codependency group :-)
Hi my name is Jon, and I want more knives...
 
Nostalgia never goes out of fashion, but the way things are with the world today, I think a lot of us wish that everything in life could be as simple and dependable as a good old traditional pocket-knife. When I open my knife to use it, it sort of feels like I step out of time for a minute, and am minded of when I was a lot younger, and had fewer cares and worries. I don't like disposable things, I like quality, stuff that lasts, and when I handle my pocket-knife, I'm handling something which probably has greater longevity than myself, and is probably better engineered too ;)
 
I'm 17, so I don't really have anything to go back to as far as personal experience. I think sometimes nostalgia can gloss over the reality of past events. Surely the growing up years of the boomers were as fraught with peril (just of a different kind) as the growing up years of my generation! When you get right down to it, I believe that the good old days are a figment of the imagination. Therefore, I don't collect and use my various 'traditional' or 'nostalgic' accouterments to try to resurrect the unattainable, Utopian past, but rather to remind myself that it was really just the opposite. I'm absolutely certain that my life to date has been far more comfortable and leisurely than my dad's, or my grandad's, or my great-granddad's were during their growing up years. For a number of reasons, I think my generation is the softest, most spoiled in history, and I try to combat that in myself by a) spending as much time as I can listening to, conversing with, and working for all the 'geezers' I know, and b) carrying and using the kinds of tools they used and carried. Hopefully some of their preparedness and DIY mentality will wear off. Thanks G.H.McB. for bringing this topic up!

Edan
 
I suspect most people into traditionals are over 50, its a nostalgia thing.
I do love a smooth handling knife, so my new GEC's get the emery paper treatment
a bit of smoothing, a bit of patina, and I can entertain myself for hours CFing and CEying

definitely fun to have the support of this codependency group :-)
Hi my name is Jon, and I want more knives...


I'm 33.

I grew up living with my grandparents and great-grandmother though. I remember my great-grandfather whittling with his pocket knives, I've posted pictures of a couple of his knives that I have now. I just always liked the look and feel of the old traditional patterns. Growing up in rural TN, most men carried some sort of traditional knife, at least the ones I looked up to did.
 
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