Aren't ALL knives like Busse Knives?

evltcat

evltcat

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My wife and I have been watching Forged in Fire and enjoying the show.

During the last competition, one of the maker's knives broke at the tang during the chopping test. My wife looks at me and says "I don't understand. Why did his knife break like that? Aren't all knives made like your Busse knives?!!??" :confused:

I explained to her in all fairness these knife makers are short cutting everything about knife making to complete a knife just for the show. I took the opportunity to grab my B.I.G. NMFSH, rewind to the forging section, and show her the differences in tang construction, and how the handles are attached. Then she says "Oh, now I understand why you love your Busse knives! You should only buy Busse knives."

I LOVE her!!!! :D --- :thumbup:
 
rat tail construction is not bad for some applications , there is no need to make all knives looks llike a tank.
 
Same concept my wife said to me buying my Colt M4......"Well you can get the same thing for a quarter the price?"...she says. At least you got through to her.
 
When you think about Busses long involved 80 hour HT, there is no way that he could make a perfect Busse in 3-4 hours. However, using simple carbon steels, they can get away with much simpler HT's that will work for one days abuse. It's obviously not fair to compare the two, however, many of those guys impress me with how good a job they do in such a short time frame.
 
80 hour heat treat? Really? I need to find out more on this subject. I have learned a lot about heat treating lately (trial and error and from professionals) and that seems kinda, I dunno, redundant?
 
Yes. You definitely need to find out more about Busse's HT. There is something redundant here...but it isn't the heat treat.
 
kwazyjuice said:
She's a keeper!!
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She sure is! Thank you sir!!!

dingy said:
rat tail construction is not bad for some applications , there is no need to make all knives looks llike a tank.
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True, but by the same token, just because a knife does have a full tang, doesn't make it a tank. My LMS, AMS, and GSO-3.5 all have full tangs and they are not clunky tanks. In a knife built specifically for chopping I think the full tang is much more suited to that use than the rat tail.

kniferMan said:
Wow sounds like a breakthrough.... Keep her happy!
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Absolutely! I'm a lucky guy! ;)

zombieassassin said:
Same concept my wife said to me buying my Colt M4......"Well you can get the same thing for a quarter the price?"...she says. At least you got through to her.
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Don't give up Brother! It took a while for me to get my wife to see the quality to price ratio.

Cobalt said:
When you think about Busses long involved 80 hour HT, there is no way that he could make a perfect Busse in 3-4 hours. However, using simple carbon steels, they can get away with much simpler HT's that will work for one days abuse. It's obviously not fair to compare the two, however, many of those guys impress me with how good a job they do in such a short time frame.
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Exactly. I did explain to my wife that for the show they're short-cutting everything about making a knife to get it done in 3 hrs. It really is amazing what a lot of the makers have been able to create in only 3 - 4 hrs. I really like seeing what the final two contestants produce in 5 days at their home forge for the final challenge. The Damascus patterns on each Gladius in the last episode were both gorgeous! :thumbup:
 
Havoc550 said:
80 hour heat treat? Really? I need to find out more on this subject. I have learned a lot about heat treating lately (trial and error and from professionals) and that seems kinda, I dunno, redundant?
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No more redundant than heat treating one knife plus it's twenty replacements for 3-4 hours each that combined still don't outlast one 80 hour HT Busse... ;)
 
dingy said:
rat tail construction is not bad for some applications , there is no need to make all knives looks llike a tank.
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My kukri is a rat tang I believe, a monster of a chopper.
Pound for pound a better chopper than any busse... and I love busse.
 
You got any experience to back up that last statement? Just curious...

GregB
 
GregB said:
You got any experience to back up that last statement? Just curious...

GregB
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Ah ok I see my typo, all of MY busse ;)
I guess experience would be only hacking wood with these 2...
The smaller kukri out chops my beloved nmfbm.
Both have convex grinds, both are monsters, but I'd grab the kukri if I had a ton of wood to chop...
 
Havoc550 said:
80 hour heat treat? Really? I need to find out more on this subject. I have learned a lot about heat treating lately (trial and error and from professionals) and that seems kinda, I dunno, redundant?
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Yes a huge portion of that is the taking the blade down to -320 and holding there for a very loooooong time. By the way, I have heard of others doing extra long HT's on complex steels, so Busse is not the only one with a long HT.
 
HwangJino said:
Ah ok I see my typo, all of MY busse ;)
I guess experience would be only hacking wood with these 2...
The smaller kukri out chops my beloved nmfbm.
Both have convex grinds, both are monsters, but I'd grab the kukri if I had a ton of wood to chop...
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Doesn't look like that NMFBM has been put to much of a test. What did you chop with it to reach your conclusion?
 
I'll give you three guesses which one of these chops circles around the other 2, and your first two guesses don't count :D


Busse Kuk for the win :D
 
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