Around the yard, and camp knife

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I'm looking for a KA-BAR knife to use around the yard for whacking small limbs and general use. This knife would also double as my general around the camp for things like killing bears and ...... ok just for limbs, brush, etc.

Here are the choices I will choose from, all KA-BAR....

The 14-1/4" Heavy Bowie
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The Kukri Machete
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The Black KA-BAR Camp Knife
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Any thoughts on these for general use?
 
I'm leaning towards eliminating the Kukri because of times when I may want to strike the back of the knife to get through some wood. It looks like a fine chopper but doesn't seem well suited for a good beating.
 
Well, for a blade to deal with limbing and wacking wood, you can't get too much better than a real HI Khukuri. I've got a 16.5" WWII and it handles my yardwork and limbing chores amazingly. It's tough enough to take down small trees, and versatile enough that I can do 90% of my tree trimming/shaping work using just that knife. Since spring is upon us, I've been doing alot of work in the yard these past few weekends. I've used it to wack out an overgrown rosemary bush, take the limbs off my neighbors tree where they overhang my fence, slice the downed limbs into yard waste container friendly sizes, and trimmed and shaped up the various trees I have in the backyard (lemon, plum, etc). It's not a great choice for shaping up climbing jasmine, because that stuff is really lightweight, stuff like that is best suited for a pair of shears or electric hedge trimmer.

While, I wouldn't want to face a bear with it as my only weapon (prefering a 12gauge loaded with slugs), I'd at least feel like I had a fighting chance, if only a very slim one.

Sean
Sean
 
Well, for a blade to deal with limbing and wacking wood, you can't get too much better than a real HI Khukuri. I've got a 16.5" WWII and it handles my yardwork and limbing chores amazingly. It's tough enough to take down small trees, and versatile enough that I can do 90% of my tree trimming/shaping work using just that knife. Since spring is upon us, I've been doing alot of work in the yard these past few weekends. I've used it to wack out an overgrown rosemary bush, take the limbs off my neighbors tree where they overhang my fence, slice the downed limbs into yard waste container friendly sizes, and trimmed and shaped up the various trees I have in the backyard (lemon, plum, etc). It's not a great choice for shaping up climbing jasmine, because that stuff is really lightweight, stuff like that is best suited for a pair of shears or electric hedge trimmer.

While, I wouldn't want to face a bear with it as my only weapon (prefering a 12gauge loaded with slugs), I'd at least feel like I had a fighting chance, if only a very slim one.

Sean
Sean

Hmmm. How do you feel about splitting some small wood with it and having the hit the back of it to drive it through? Would it handle that? That is my only objection to the Kukri. Otherwise chopping is where it shines.
 
The Heavy bowie is good. I almost got one.

General advice: if you want a khukuri shaped blade, get a khukuri, not a machete.
 
Hmmm. How do you feel about splitting some small wood with it and having the hit the back of it to drive it through? Would it handle that? That is my only objection to the Kukri. Otherwise chopping is where it shines.

Not an issue, my HI khukuri is ~3/8 inch think along the spine. It's actually powerful enough that you can split most wood without having to baton the blade, because of the blade shape it doesn't tend to bind itself when splitting wood.

Sean
 
:thumbup: I have a Kabar heavy bowie, and let me tell you something, you just cannot beat it for the price. Holds an edge surprisingly well, even after you chop down your back yard with it. The handle is very comfortable as well; absorbs a lot of the shock when you chop.
 
for 18 bucks you can get a 12 inch ontarion machete short and handy...great for clearing limbs and the spine is thickenoug and the blade is strong enough to baton if need be it just need a slittle sharpening out of the box, other than that its perfect.
 
I have used my Becker BK10 regularly for this sort of yard work. It is a bit short for real chopping, but takes care of most things.
 
It's a nice decision to be making, first of all.

I became an instant fan of the Ka-Bar "Heavy" Bowie 1277. For starters, it is not all that heavy, compared to other commonly-available Bowies. Its flat grind makes for a blade that will slice nicely. The handle is surprisingly comfortable. Right after getting it I used it to cut several sizeable branches for sort of a jungle-looking canopy for the back yard, and I had no trouble blazing through lots of tough wood with it. The sheath's a little suboptimal--e.g., it's got a two-part sheath with the belt loop attached to the sheath body with a ring to allow flexibility, but this is then negated by the fact that the snapping retention loops are both located on the belt-loop part, preventing any flexing from happening. I'll agree that the enclosed handle makes for a very comfortable long afternoon of chopping. The handle might be too large for some with small hands, but I had no problem with it at all. That big bulge at the end of the grip (it gets wider, in addition to the bird's-beak shape that you see in side photographs) keeps it very firmly in hand, too--very unlikely to fly out. What the knife really begs for, however, is to be modded into a combat Bowie--the kraton handle removed, a guard added, and then an appropriate stag or wooden handle. Note that the false edge goes remarkably far back on the blade; it's pretty thin, and would be more easily sharpened than the clip on most production Bowies. It would make for a very fast, very durable fighting Bowie, for a very low cost.

Another advantage of all of these Ka-Bars: there are a million out there, and if you lose or break one, you can just get another without much expense or regret.

Kukri: I love khukuris, but have never handled or used the Ka-Bar version. They pack a lot of chopping power into a fairly-short space, which makes for greater utility in that you're maybe likelier to carry it. Himalayan Imports is more or less the only kind I've seriously used, and the Himalayan Imports forum offers knives with minor flaws (like cracked handles that can be fixed with epoxy) almost every weekday afternoon for competitive prices. These are individually hand-forged works of art, with differential tempering (meaning the primary cutting parts of the edge are hardened, whereas the rest of the blade is left relatively soft, which allows both edge-holding and great toughness.) For example, I note that one nice khukuri was sold through the H.I. forum this afternoon for about $40, delivered--a presumably-fixable crack in the water-buffalo-horn handle reduced the price drastically. I'd hesitate to try batoning an H.I. khukuri, in that it'd likely deform the soft steel of the spine--but then, these knives deliver so much kinetic energy on chopping that it'd never occurred to me to baton one. If you're getting a kukri, I'd recommend getting one of the H.I. ones, just as they have so much more character (and probably quality) than the mass-produced Ka-Bar version, and the price for an H.I. second is not a whole lot more than for the Ka-Bar. Losing it might be a little harder to take than with a production knife, since there are no two that are quite alike.

Never handled the Ka-Bar camp knife. I find the blade configuration interesting. I had an Ontario Spec Plus "Freedom Fighter", with similar Kraton handle, snap its tang on light chopping, and I'd be curious to know whether the Ka-Bar camp knife has a half-inch tang like the Ka-Bar USMC leather-handled knife, or a thinner tang that threads into the pommel. If the latter, I'd question its long-term strength, as that's not a huge amount of steel, and the kraton might allow more flexing and thus more fatigue to a thin tang, if that's what it's got. A lot of people really object to the cross guard on knives for survival use, as they like to be able to extend their thumbs out over the blade for more precise guidance or cutting power. If you are of this opinion, you might opt for a knife without the top part of the guard, and/or cut off the top part of the guard.

Have fun, and tell us how whatever you get works for you.
 
Thanks to all those that took the time to reply. I'm going to be placing an order soon and will be writing up a review. Though I have had knives all my life I've never given them much thought. Hearing from people like yourselves has opened up a new world for me.
 
Another vote for the heavy bowie.. I have both the large and the short heavy bowies and as mentioned earlier they have a flat grind with plenty of spine that will slice through anything and the 1085 steel is very tough and able to perform anything from chopping to work requiring a baton. after a chopping session they can be brought back to hair shaving sharpness in less than five minutes! very well balanced too. By the way i have several bowies and some cost four times as much as these but these are two of my favorites! get one and you will be happy with it.
 
There are a few Marines who're carrying the KaBar bowie. I made them sheaths. Apparently, it chops around the backyard of Anbar Province quite well. I find them to be great choppers, but if you want to mainly chop, I'd go the kukri route. For general stuff, you can't beat the bowie.
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There are a few Marines who're carrying the KaBar bowie. I made them sheaths. Apparently, it chops around the backyard of Anbar Province quite well. I find them to be great choppers, but if you want to mainly chop, I'd go the kukri route. For general stuff, you can't beat the bowie.
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What model are they carrying? the 1276 short or the 1277 large? just curious as the short isn't much longer than the old leatherneck ka-bar.
 
+1 for the HI kukris. :thumbup: I don't own one (yet) but I do have a cheap khukri made in India with a 1/4 inch thick blade that I use around camp mainly as a hatchet. I've tackled some pretty big stuff with it (6-8 inch diameter) and never had a problem batoning with it if I wanted to. The Hi kukris by all accounts are many times tougher than my cheap version. Plus HI seems like a great company and they treat their kamis (knife makers) very well.

I think the Ka-Bar kukri has a fairly thin blade. . . more like a machete blade. Ontario knives makes on that I believe is a bit thicker.

If you decide you don't want to go with a kukri at all, and you definitely want to stick with one of the Ka-Bar knives, then I think the Camp Knife looks like the better choice. It has a hint of the blade shape that makes a kukri such an efficient chopper, and a pommel that you can hammer with if need be. The false edge on the back of the Heavy Bowie may tear up a baton a little more quickly.
 
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