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Spotted a piece of flint on the ground, started looking around and found these not far from my home . . . .
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Anyone know what the rock with a hole could be?
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Guessing Cherokee or Creek Tribe.
 
Cool score! I love finding those. The one with the hole could be a natural formation. I'm no expert though.
 
Great find! That hole looks really circular...not natural from my perspective. Could be an old bearing block that just wore through after much use.
 
Interesting stuff. You found this in Georgia all on the same day!!? I'm out west and haven't seen the quartz arrowheads like a couple of them you found there.

The one with the hole in it is really cool. Being it was among that other stuff, it must have had some purpose. Easier to bore a hole in that type of stone than in ones that flake or chip. I dunno, maybe it's a rangefinder. ;O)

Whatever it is, it looks man made to me.
 
I was thinking loom weight. The Anglo-Saxons used stones or pieces of dried clay to weigh the ends of the warp.

Someone else might know better but it looks to me as though the arrow heads are unfinished. Maybe someone was making a whole batch and threw aside the ones that went a bit wrong in the process. In that case you should see all the chippings too though.
 
Looks a bit like an Aboriginal fire making stone that was used with a hand drill.

Is there any evidence of carbonised wood etc on the inside of the hole?



Kind regards
Mick
 
Looks like someone was learning or practicing the technique. Anyone that has done flintknapping for more than a couple of hours would turn out more usable and refined points. Very easy and inexpensive to get going - fun too.
 
G'day Doc

DOC-CANADA said:
Hey Mick,

We need more details, please.

Doc
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Notice how the underside of the hole is smaller in diameter than the top?

The whole purpose of using friction as a means of starting a fire is to generate enough heat to generate a ember that is hot enough to ignite dry tinder.... right?

Is there any reason why the ember only has to be generated from the wood of the spindle or the wood of the hearth board? :D

Our Aboriginals used to use either dry grass or dried herbivore dung to generate the ember :D

The ones I've seen used involved packing the hole with either crumbled up dry herbivore dung or crushed up dry grasses. The spindle was then placed on top and rotated to generate the friction required to generate the ember.

In the Aboriginal fire stones I've seen used, the smaller diameter hole functions in pretty much the same way as the notch on fireboards (i.e. a way for the embers generated to be able to spill out onto the kindling).

The tinder was generally placed under the stone so that the embers fell out onto the tinder.

Generally takes less effort than relying on the wood of either hearth board or spindle to generate the coal :thumbup:




Kind regards
Mick
 
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I found them in 2 short outings about an hour or so total. There are tiny shards of flint everywhere!( I collected a handful of nice chips and shards also)
The area was cleared for timber and this was on the path where the equipment drove through. The area I've been finding the shards is around 75 yds long so far. My son and I have previously found an occasional arrowhead here and there along with pieces of pottery near a creek but this area is something else.
It's only a 10 minute walk from the house so I'll be checking it regularly and update my finds.
Bill
The Etowah Indian Mounds in Cartersville are around 15 miles north of this place.
 
FwdHO said:
Looks like someone was learning or practicing the technique. Anyone that has done flintknapping for more than a couple of hours would turn out more usable and refined points. Very easy and inexpensive to get going - fun too.
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They are genuine .He found a pottery fragment also. I just dont think these are that old. Older they are , usually the better quality. The one with the hole could be for fire starting.
 
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dipbait said:
They are genuine .He found a pottery fragment also. I just dont think these are that old. Older they are , usually the better quality. The one with the hole could be for fire starting.
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You think the pottery is authentic? How would they get the grid on it like that. Great finds...makes me wish I could get out more.
 
Very cool thanks for sharing. My guess on the rock with the hole was going to be (used to start fires). That would have been a guess, obviously there are some more knowledgeable people here with some great responses. Great thread thanks.
 
crj1968 said:
You think the pottery is authentic? How would they get the grid on it like that. Great finds...makes me wish I could get out more.
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The grid looks like it's an impression from a woven mat of some sort to me.
 
I live in MS. and I find that stuff alot here. Especially after it rains and the timber has been cut. What I was told is that there are 2 types here. Tallahatta quartz and chert. The chert was traded for and brought in this part of the country. I love hunting this stuff. Its real history. You have a great find. I proud for you.
 
http://whalens-artifacts.com/slate.htm
Broken artifact with hole is most likely a broken hard stone gorget. They would drill the holes with a tapered flint drill which will produce the tapered hole. Sometimes they will go through from both sides and create a bigger hole and other times they would only go through from one side like your piece and leave a tapered hole. Above is a link with some various types made of banded slate and hardstone. Nice finds, definitely keep looking never know what will turn up. I have hunted artifacts for 30 years and have been a long time member of the Archeological Society of Ohio it is a real addiction. I generally hunt the freshly plowed farm fields and an occasional creek bank. -Burton
 
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