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Brian C

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I am considering getting one of these for use with a couple of my larger FBs but I have some questions about configurations & the rig's components. Rather than cluttering up Steve's thread, I thought it better to start my own. The questions:

* The rig pictured on the Blade Rigger site shows the sheath positioned slightly in front of the armpit with the Pivot Kit option. Can the rig be configured to allow for the sheath on a longer blade to pass at an angle back under the arm? (In other words, with the front strap attached near the handle and the bottom of the sheath attached behind the back?)

* Is the Crossover Keeper a standard component?

* Goes the Underarm Strap serve an purpose other than attaching a tactical bag on the side opposite the blade?

* Where is the Comfort Sleeve attached?

I'm sure I'll have more questions as I learn more about the system but that should do it for now. TIA for your responses.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
I'm finding out for you, precisely. James has worked them every way you can imagine and I'm sure he will have an exact idea of what you have in mind.

 
Thanks, Don. I don't know if these will help, but here are thumbnails with links to two of the pieces I have in mind:

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That's a Bauchop Alley Cat on the left. OAL in sheath is 14 3/4". On the right is a HI Sirupati with OAL of 13". Thanks again for your help in figuring this out.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
I just got my knife back from Normark. It has an OAL of around 15 inches in the sheath. I'll post a pic of it later to give you a better idea of how the rig will work with a big blade.
 
Thanks, Voodoo Child, I'd appreciate that. BTW, the Alley Cat sheath is from Normark too.

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Brian

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Any info yet, Don? Did you get a chance to take a pic, Voodoo Child? TIA guys.

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Brian

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Sorry for the wait dude.

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The pics aren't exactly proportioned, except for the one with the pack of smokes. They are pretty damn close though.
 
I should also add that my rig did come with the underarm strap. It's not shown in the pics because my shirt is not tucked in. My dog ripped the paper describing all the components to little pieces, so I'm not 100% sure what the crossover keeper and comfort sleeve are. As you can see a big blade should not be a problem at all. I'm around 5 feet 7 inches(not bad for an asian dude
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) and the blade is about 15 inches.
 
Thanks for the pics, Voodoo Child. I appreciate you taking the time to shoot & post them. BTW, nice blade.
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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
No problem. In my other post I said the blade was 15 inches, but what I meant to say was that the OAL of the knife was 15 inches. The blade is a prototype from maker Max Burnett(great maker, great guy). It's my Excalibur. The pics don't do it justice though.
 
Thanks again, Voodoo Child. Since I'm 6'2" & your knife is the same approximate size as my Bauchop, it gives me a real good idea of how the rig might work for me with that knife.

I know yours isn't set up this way but does it seem like the rig can be configured as I described above (i.e., allowing for the sheath to pass at an angle back under the arm)? I'm particularly interested in the potential for carrying a khukuri in a shoulder rig. The Sirupati shown is small as khukuris go. If I were to make a similar Kydex sheath for one of my larger ones, angling back & up under the arm would be needed in order to keep the handle above my belt line.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
VC: 5'7 asian? dude when are we gonne get a beer
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nice pics.. I have never thought to rig a blade under my asso. like that.

b, I could be wrong which i usually am but I can try to asnwer your queestions...

>>Can the rig be configured to allow for the sheath on a longer blade to pass at an angle back under the arm?

I think yes but if I am thinking right the handle will stick out of your shirt.. if it is a drop handle blade of some sort like the kukri you mentioned it might work, the thing, the flat of the blade must be pressed up against your ribs.. if you are thinking of having it pressed on your back, you are better off with a spinal rig.. am I confused here?

>Is the Crossover Keeper a standard component?

nope.. nothign is standard
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If I am not mistaken it is a cloth attatchment that jsp developed for those who wanted to wear the associate on bare skin and had allergic reactions.

>>Goes the Underarm Strap serve an purpose

the lashdown? I thought it was attatched the same side as the blade? I feel that unless you run and have a light blade and tuck your shirt in it is not too useful.

I carry a 1/4 stock snody on my assoc.. and the weight keeps it stable. on a lighter hossom blade I need the strap to keep the blade slappign my ribs from driving me insane.

>>Where is the Comfort Sleeve attached?

armpit pads
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[This message has been edited by sniperboy (edited 02-02-2001).]
 
Dear Susan,

Can you take a picture of how you have your Snody rigged on the Associate? Digi-Pic or Scan would be cool, if you cannot put it on a website and post it here, E-mail it to me in .jpg format and I will put it in here.

Are you using the standard sheath or what?

Why won't God make DeAsis bring back the #45 & #48?

Why is the sky blue?

Why do you like "Dave's Insanity?"

Why do we call you Susan, even if your name is Soo?

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And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
 
Thanks for the additional info, Sniperboy. When I was talking about angling the blade back, I meant at a slight angle, something like the following:

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If the rig were configured so that the front attachment point shown supported the weight, that is the approximate angle that would be naturally achieved. The strap for the rear attachment point would come from the back, stabilizing the rig during both carry & draw. (The blade leaves the sheath at an angle.) At least this is how I envision it working.
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Does this make it clear as mud? Any questions or thoughts on what I've outlined? Thanks again, folks.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
Hmmm...the way you want it positioned is exactly the opposite of how mine is. I tried to duplicate with my knife and I think it should work out. As for carrying the knife, do you want it under your arm or perhaps even further back? or up front like in the pics?

Carrying further back may result in cutting your jacket/vest when drawing. Your also gonna have to make sure to keep your left hand or forearm out of the way.
 
Thanks for the cautionary note about clothes & body parts, Sniperboy, but I think I'll be able to clear them.
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If you can imagine a perpendicular line running through the front attachment point, the portion of the blade to the right of that line would be under my arm while that to the left, including the handle, would be further forward.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
bcaffrey: I agree with voodoo I woudl rig the sheath you have mirror image of what you had planned.. either that or you would have your "front" peg 3 or 4 slots up and while your "back" peg would be 2 to 4 slots down for a comfortable carry. That is ofcourse takign into account my diminutive frame.

the associate carries like a backpack unlike old school rigs whic carry like slim slings that ride near or if just under your shoulderblades, so if i understadn your setup correctly you have to manually cut the webbing and resew it for the "back" peg you have to ride that high.. that or I am confused as usual.

imagine the assoscaite rig's left loop.. the top loop goes over your shoulder like a backpack while the lower strap goes low under your armpit and lats like the same backpack.. if I understand you correctly this set up will make your kuhkri pop forward. I assume you want the lower strap to really hug your armpit, withou;you modifing your asso. for a high ride I dont think it will work... then again I might be confused.

DR:

1) I don't have easy acces to a digicam right now sorry but my Snody rides liek Voodoochild's on the standard sheath snody provides for his thick turkshead knives (unlike your 'predator' sheath on your kwaiken.) THe only diff between VD's rig is that my lower strap is say 2 pegs lower so when it swovels it doesn't dig into my armpit.

My sheath is the standard gunslinger sheath snody has.. has holes along the side of the sheath.

De Asis wont make the old balisongs so I can brag about he 45's and 48 I have
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abscence makes the heart go fonder.. I need a 48.

>Why is the sky blue?

cause beer is deliscious.

>Why do you like "Dave's Insanity?"

see above. plus I am a masochist.
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other stuff is weird...

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Thanks again, sniperboy. Your response has given me a better idea of how the rig is configured. Based on your description, I'm going to go a cautious route. I know someone who I believe has an associate rig. I'll confirm and, if he still does, I'll ask him to bring it to next month's NYC show.

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Cheers,
Brian

He who finishes with the most toys wins.
 
Get Jerry Hossom brewing up some exotic dish of rice and other things I have not heard of...a couple of beers and Marlboros and a bottle of Dave's Insanity, and SNIPAH-BOY IS OFF!

Dave's Insanity, for the uninitiated, is a unique mix of something from a Nuclear Waste Facility that is something between Crystal Drano™ and Magma.
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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
 
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