ATF Contracts 2000 Engraved Micra's

WTF? Is this for real? "Asset forfeiture"?!?! Government sponsored airport security must liberate hundreds of these things from ordinary folks every week due to "asset forfeiture".

Friggin' government thieves!
 
Just one more reason not to ever purchase anything from Leatherman, anti-gun shill that he is.

I haven't owned a Leatherman in over ten years, and until he quits associating himself with the likes of Sarah Brady and the rest of the anti-Constitution crowd, he can pound sand.
 
Stinky Whizzleteats said:
Just one more reason not to ever purchase anything from Leatherman, anti-gun shill that he is.

I haven't owned a Leatherman in over ten years, and until he quits associating himself with the likes of Sarah Brady and the rest of the anti-Constitution crowd, he can pound sand.
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As I recall, Leatherman supported Kerry because of enviromental issues. I don't recall him ever saying anything about guns.

Also, notice that ATF is buying these from a reseller, not from the Leatherman Tool Group itself.
 
shecky said:
This has become one of the silliest myths among knife/gun nuts. It's amazing what folks will believe just 'cause it's on the internet.
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Thanks for the thinly-veiled insult to my intelligence, but your opinion of my mental capacity (Or lack thereof) has nothing to do with the price of tea in China.

I don't like his politics, because he associates himself with people who have consistently come out against certain civil liberties, and I don't like his multi-tools because I don't find them any more effective than my much less expensive Gerber 600.
 
I don't like his politics, because he associates himself with people who have consistently come out against certain civil liberties,
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When was the last time you bought gasoline? You realize that purchase supports plenty of folks around the world who aren't particularly sensitive about civil liberties? Your purchase actually supports terrorists.

Objecting to a product on it's merits as a product is valid. But that's not what you did in your first post. Objecting to a product because it's maker isn't even anti-gun is moronic.
 
When was the last time you bought gasoline? You realize that purchase supports plenty of folks around the world who aren't particularly sensitive about civil liberties? Your purchase actually supports terrorists.
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Succinctly put.
 
shecky said:
When was the last time you bought gasoline? You realize that purchase supports plenty of folks around the world who aren't particularly sensitive about civil liberties? Your purchase actually supports terrorists.

Objecting to a product on it's merits as a product is valid. But that's not what you did in your first post. Objecting to a product because it's maker isn't even anti-gun is moronic.
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It's been a while since the last time I bought gasoline; I ride a bicycle.

Good point, but do you always go so far out of your way to be directly insulting to people you disagree with? Such behavior doesn't convince me that you are as intelligent as you want me to think you are.

Back off a little before this gets out of hand.
 
shecky said:
WTF? Is this for real? "Asset forfeiture"?!?! Government sponsored airport security must liberate hundreds of these things from ordinary folks every week due to "asset forfeiture".

Friggin' government thieves!
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If this isn't motivation to steal more private property, nothing is.

And the government has the b*lls to wonder why we citizen are p*ssed at them:grumpy:
 
mp510 said:
As I recall, Leatherman supported Kerry because of enviromental issues. I don't recall him ever saying anything about guns.

Also, notice that ATF is buying these from a reseller, not from the Leatherman Tool Group itself.
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Tim Leatherman was one of several manufacturers of outdoor recreational goods who endorsed Kerry because of environmental policy differences with the Bush administration. Other signers included the CEOs of Patagonia, and (I think) North Face, maybe a dozen in all. To my knowledge, Leatherman has never expressed himself publicly on any other controversial issue, including guns. The perception that he is a gun grabbing liberal, I believe, is just a remaining hiccup from an intense electoral season. I respectfully suggest that everyone just let it go. Political disagreements aren't war, and anyway, the other guy won, so resentment serves no purpose and isn't even justified on the known facts.
 
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This is the letter signed by Tim Leatherman. Judge for yourself.
(BTW, I was wrong about North Face, and there were 31 signers, not a dozen.)


Dear Fellow Americans:



We are business leaders in the outdoor industry and we have come together because we can no longer be silent. Outdoor businesses depend on abundant and available recreation opportunities so our customers can enjoy outdoor activities. In return, outdoor businesses employ over a million Americans, contribute $18 billion to the U.S. economy and work together to promote an active and healthy lifestyle to the 149 million Americans who love the great American outdoors.

In our opinion increasing the number of venues for active outdoor recreation, staunchly protecting the environment, bolstering recreation and conservation funding to our public land agencies and reducing health care costs go hand-in-hand. They are essential for the health and well being of the outdoor industry and its customers.

Senators John Kerry and John Edwards share our values and goals. They know that promoting active outdoor recreation promotes good health. They know that proactively protecting and supporting public lands for recreational use means future generations will enjoy them too. They know that improving the quality of the air we breathe and the water we drink is not negotiable for any industry or business in America. They know that health care costs will continue to increase unless we are united in reducing obesity in America.

John Kerry and John Edwards are committed to preserving our national parks for the benefit of current and future generations. President Bush has promoted policies that break that commitment and endanger the future sustainability of our national parks. President Bush’s policies have severely under-funded our national parks resulting in rampant understaffing, site closures, elimination of visitor education programs and neglected cultural and natural resource preservation, demonstrating indifference towards unsafe trails, unclear facilities and the growing shortage of safety staff.

As importantly, the Bush administration has rolled back basic environmental protections that undermine parks including:

- Rolling back Clean Air Act requirements that ensure visibility and healthy visits to our national parks.

- Eliminating federal protections for our public lands that will allow mining, logging and development in national forests.

- Slashing the Land and Water Conservation Fund, which enables the National Park Service to acquire new land and protect and enhance existing parks facilities.

In contrast John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to protect the scenic landscapes and vistas for the appreciation of future generations through rigorous enforcement of clean air and water regulations and will preserve the resources that embody our cultural heritage through committed funding for parks operations by:

Increasing the operating budget of the National Park Service by $600 million will put our parks back on the path toward recovery and restoration. We will pay for this important objective by modernizing the sale of mineral rights and using the revenue generated to increase the operating budgets of our national parks.

We know that Senator Kerry is a champion on the environmental issues that are central to our industry and customers. We also believe that Senator Kerry's economic and health care policies will keep our businesses competitive and health care affordable.

Therefore, we the undersigned are proud to endorse Senator Kerry as the next President of the United States.


Sincerely,


Lee Fromson, president, Cascade Designs (Seattle, WA)

Peter Bragden, vice president, general counsel, Columbia Sportswear (Portland, Oregon)

Menno Van Wyk, CEO, Montrail (Seattle, WA)

Paul Fish, president, Mountain Gear (Spokane, WA)

Carn Nielsen, vice president, Mountain Gear (Spokane, WA)

Dan Nordstrom, CEO, Outdoor Research (Seattle, WA)

Jeff Bowman, vice president, Cascade Designs (Seattle, WA)

Doug Phillips, president, Metolius Climbing (Bend, OR)

Tim Leatherman, president, Leatherman Tool Group, Inc. (Portland, OR)

Dunham Gooding, president, American Alpine Institute, Ltd (Bellingham, WA)

Larry Harrison, president, Earth Games (San Clemente, CA)

Jim Clark, CEO, Watermark (Arcata, CA)

Steve Barker, CEO, Eagle Creek Travel Gear (San Diego, CA)

Peter Metcalf, CEO, Black Diamond (Salt Lake City, Utah)

Ashley Korenblat, president, Western Spirit Cycling (Moab, Utah)

Mike Wallenfels, vice president, Mountain Hardware (Richmond, CA)

Roody Rasmussen, CEO, Petzl America (Clearfield, UT)

Tony Post, president, Vibram (Concord, MA)

Kelly Stone, director sales and marketing, Werner Paddles (Seattle, WA)

Joe Hyer, president, Alpine Experience (Olympia, WA)

Mike Sullivan, president, Sullivan Agency (Wimberley, TX)

Bob Olsen, president, Peregrine Outfitters (Williston, VT)

Michael Crooke, CEO, Patagonia (Ventura, CA)

Brian Bennett, director national accounts, Patagonia (Ventura, CA)

Adam Forest, managing partner, The Forest Group (Lotus, CA)

Gordon Seabury, president, Horny Toad Activewear (Santa Barbara, CA)

Paul Gagner, vice president, Gregory Mountain Products (Temecula, CA)

Tom Campion, founder and chairman, Zumiez Inc. (Everett, WA)

Malcolm Daly, president, Trango (Boulder, CO)

Rodney Smith, president, American Outdoor Products (Boulder, CO)

Joan Keller, president, Le Travel Store (San Diego, CA)
Thomason
 
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