ATR-SS First Impressions

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hi fellow Spyder-knuts,

about an hour ago i recieved my ATR-SS plain edge. am i happy with it? totally! this knife is awesome!

some observations and 1st impressions:

feel, look and weight of this knife is fantastic! like a $1000-custom almost. the knife much more bulky and wide in looks than, say, a Police. the weight is almost the same as the Police, but you won't notice that. the weight-distribution is so well done that the knife feels more like a Delica. great!

ergo's are great. "yeah...", you think, "with SS-handles?!", yes, with steel handles, doesn't matter! it holds very well in a straight saber-grip as well as in the horizontal 'slash-grip'. no doubt the layout of the handle and cobra-hood account to this mostly.

accidental lock-release is out of the question due to the layout of the top-compression lock. there's one you can trust for sure! opening the knife is easy and smooth due to the large spyderhole, cobra-hood and positive handle-purchase, perfect. the tang of the lock is initially still a little 'sticky', some wear and tear will probably solve this given enough use. it's brand-new out of the box so i wasn't expecting any better than it is now. its fine. additionally, opening the blade produces a satisfying but subtle "clack" of the compression-lock, very nice.

closing the knife one-handed with right hand takes a little practice, but i got the hang of it within 5 minutes. its not much more difficult than with a front-locker. just put your thumb on the first hole of the handle's left scale, hold your index-finger against the right side of the hole near the hood, use your middle-finger to disengage the lock and close the blade with your index-finger, simple enough really, even despite the initially snagging sticky lockup.
closing it one-handed with your LEFT hand is a totally different story though. it's doable and i''ve got my method for it sorted already, but it takes some dexterity. lefties, you've been warned......

the blade: finally a new blade-shape with a slightly stronger tip. the steel is VG-10 and i wouldn't want to have it any other way. as usual, the edge is Spyderco-perfect and Spyderco-razord sharp. it's amazing how everytime when i feel the edge of a brand-new Spyderco, it makes me feel humble about my own sharpening-skills. this knife is scary sharp! the blade-length is perfect for me, not too long, not too short. the utilitarian belly near the front end of the blade is most useful in cutting. choking up on the blade is easy because of the choil and good purchase on the blade's spine. peeling some fruit is slightly impaired in ease because of the cobra-hood, but it's not that bad.

the clip: it's short, it's strong, but it's also 'sharp'. the inner-side of the clip that touches your pants-pocket is thin sheet-metal that touches the denim straight on. this makes a for grippy clip (really strong, you won't lose this knife in a bungee-jump) but also a potential pants-eater. time will have to tell if this is the case. one con: tip-up carry only.

interesting feat: on the right side of the blade near the hole is a peculiar marking, i'm guessing this is the designer's logo. if anyone can tell me what it is, i'd like to know

is is really that good and no cons or problems at all? well, almost, yes. there's is ofcourse the compression-lock that may take some getting used to for people with less than perfect motoric skills........, but most importantly, i've noticed a slight metallic sound, kind of a rattle, near the butt of the handle. i think it's one of the steel handle-spacers. if anyone can tell me more, i'd definitely like to know about it. one other interesting/disturbing discovery is that all of the screws used on the knife are of a very strange kind. they look like a cross-breed between Allen and Torx, but they're not. they might look like Torx-Plus, but yet again, they're not. these are apparently some new sort of anti-tamper Torx-screws that i've never seen before, and sure would like to have identified. the reason why this could be a problematic issue is obvious: should your handle/pivot-screws need tightening because of wear or general loosening, then you have a problem.

the conclusion? the ATR rocks! i especially chose the steel version above the titanium model, simply because of price-point, and because it's otherwise exactly the same, only slightly 'heavier', which as previously mentioned, isn't all that heavy at all anyway.

should you get this knife? you bet, give it a shot, you'll love it if you can handle the compression-lock!

any info or remarks on my findings are very welcomed! thanks for reading this 1st impression/review of mine.

dennis "denn" braggaar

special thanks to Bill Morris for going the extra mile by acquiring this knife within little time and for the right price for me, thank you very much Bill! . also thank you Spyderco, for my new -EDC!

check out the ATR-SS, right here: http://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=118
 
a couple of days later, my 2nd impression of the ATR:

-upon closer inspection, the screws DO seem like regular Torx-screws. mus've been my eyes messing with me or something......

-still don't like the tip-up only carry. it requires additional fumbling after the draw to get in the ready-position. advice: upgrade ATR next year to tip-down/tip-up carry

-the lock: it remains sticky and gritty and i'll doubt it'll wear to a more smooth engagement. one plus though: after a few days of fondling the pivot has smoothened somewhat and now the blade drops down by itself when unlocking. this means closing the knife can now be down simply by releasing the lock with the thumb and catching the the blade on the choil with your index-finger. it's no longer a problem for lefties anymore either, close with the same procedure, but catch choil with your middle-finger instead of index.

-the clip: still find it too stiff, small and sharp. clipping it to the pants is more difficult than with any other folder i've used. drawing from the pocket sometimes leaves me empty-handed. i've also noticed the clip is somewhat too shiny, I might give it a rub with some scotchbrite soon, looks a little plasticky.

-everything else considered: yes, it still rocks and it's my favorite EDC now. goodbye Police and Delica. hello ATR! :D

dennis
 
My Ti ATR took a couple of weeks to smooth the action out so the blade would drop free while unlocking. I really like this design and have considered getting another one as I tend to be hard on knives, this one is back at the factory right now correcting my mistake.

I liked the pocket clip alot, of course I carry tip up only anymore. I had to bend mine out slightly to set the tension where I like it but now it is alomost perfect.

Thanks for the great review I hope alot more people consider the ATR when looking for a hard use yet easy to carry knife. And for Spyderco it seems to have a fairly strong tip.
 
hi TIR,

may i ask what your 'mistake' was that caused you to send it in for repair at the factory?

dennis
 
I broke off the stop pin screw on disassembly. I should have known better as it twisted up one of my T6 bits pretty before it broke. Oh well lesson learned, I was still able to clean it up and get it back to near perfect working order.
 
ok, the final impressions and verdict:

- tried to tighten the T6 clip-screws a little. it worked, but i managed to strip all 3 screwheads in the process and mangle up my Torx-driver too. oh well......stuff happens

- used LocTite on the pivot-screw. remains in position now. good

- rubbed the too-shiny clip with Scotchbrite pad. looks much better now and matches the look of the handle.

somehow the rattle in the handle has disappeared as well after that, so it must've been the clip's tension causing it to touch a certain spot on the handle then. solved now, nice.

- having opened, closed and used the ATR more by now I can still say that this knife handles like a dream in every aspect. the top-compression-lock system has been programmed into my habits now and I've actually started to prefer it over the more conventional front- and liner-locks.

- one feature remains that i'm not happy with: the tip-up only carry. it might be a matter of personal preference but i just can't live with tip-up clips. next year tip-down as well on the ATR, Spyderco? please? :(

conclusion: still like the ATR very much and am appreciating it more and more. if it weren't for the tip-up clip i'd rate this knife 10 out of 10 points. but since that isn't the case i'm giving it a 8.5 out of 10. overall impression: great knife, well worth the money.

thx for reading everyone and I hope any of this info was useful to potential buyers, owners and Spyderco.

denn
 
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