Attn: Mr. Maringer...

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We've been continuing some discussion in one thread, but since that's slowly starting to move into the "not on topic" area, I figured I'd ask you to introduce yourself here.

I know some people are quite familiar with you and have said good things about your work. I have not seen anything of yours unfortunately and I'm sure there are others who haven't either. Since we don't get much maker (or ex-maker for that matter) input in this little forum, I'd like to extend you warm greetings and hope you decide to stick around for a while.

Shinryû.
 
I'd like to second Robert's welcome Tom! I'm (mostly) a lurker here at the sword forum - love reading the posts but just don't have the time to participate in all the forums I'd like.

However - having owned a Maringer broadword and dagger, and one of your Vorpal knives - I just had to pitch in my 2cents here!

Welcome!

Bob Mikus

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Hey Robert and Bob:

Thanks for the invitation! I could go on and bore you to tears for hours, but I'll try for short.

It's been a while since I've been around the knife/sword "scene" so I really don't know a whole lot about what's been happening in the last six or so years since I dropped out.

I started making back in 1975, and right away wanted to do swords. Hardly anybody in the states was doing them then. A few makers had done one, then swore never to do another. Nobody was specializing in it. I thought it would be a good niche market.

The first ones were pretty clunky, using steel that was too heavy. I played at forging a while, then decided the bladesmiths were pretty high on their horse for me, and went back to stock removal. I settled on D-2 as my favorite steel, and built a heat-trating oven specifically for swords (still have it, it's for sale).

I got into the habaki construction style, and the wire wrapping, and applied those features to a wide variety of blades, both swords and daggers. I made 960 blades in my career, from 1975 to 1994, 69 of them were swords, defined as having blades of eighteen inches or more.

There were ups and downs in the business of course. One of the ups was meeting Ken Warner at the 1980 Knifemaker's Guild show in Kansas City. He came up to me and said "We're going to produce an annual publication that will be the top knife book in the world". I thought "Yeah, right!" but I gave him a bunch of photos, and... yep.. KNIVES '81 did pretty well and kept on going.

There were a small number of really nice orders. One job I was asked to bid on was simple but detailed and painstaking. I quoted $4000. The fellow looked pained. "here it comes" I thought... then he says... "Make it $5000 and just do something really nice with it." With patrons of the arts like that, things can move forward.

Most times it was "How about you forget the polishing and do it for half price?" or some such. That seemed to increase into the early 90s.

I pioneered the form-fitting Kydex sheath and brought it out at the 1981 New York show. That seems to have taken the industry by storm, though few seem to remember where it came from. The Vorpal combat knives became a larger and larger part of my business. Interest in swords was still there, but now there were a lot of crappy knock-offs being made, and many buyers settled for those.

Finally, in 1994, one of my customers called to tell me that the vorpal I sold him really worked. He told me all about how he had killed a man with it... a complete description of the event mind you.

Now, I always knew, of course, that such an event was possible... and I quite understand any of you who want to label me a whatever for this... but I couldn't handle it. I would go into the shop to work, and I'd look at the knives in progress, and I'd think about who that dead guy was, and how did his mother feel, and did he have a wife and kids... And then I took off my apron and dust mask and never went back. The half-finished blades still hang on the wall where I left them. I can't explain how I could walk away from a 20 year career like that.. it is totally incomprehensible even to me. But I have had no interest in going back to it, the very thought gives me a queasy stomach.

Still, I've had some requests from people like Bobby Branton to pass on some of what I have learned, and I don't mind doing that if someone cares enough to ask.

Gee, I thought I said I was going to keep it short. Oh well. Hope everybody's having a swell start to the new year. Tom
 
Mr. Maringer, I guess the question on everyone's mind is that, did this fellow kill in self-defense or what?

I can empathize with how you feel, and it must have been something quite difficult for you. I hope you will maintain a presence on the forums so us younger guys can share your experience.

Are there pictures of your work avaliable?
 
Hello Mr. Maringer, I've wondered more than once what happened to you.
I've seen some of your work before and always been very impressed with it, and considered it some of the very best out there.
(shame I could never afford any of it!)
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I think I can understand why you left the business, though I can't help but wonder what would have happened had the man who wrote to you told you how your work saved his life rather than reveling in how it took someone elses.
So while I mourn the loss of your contributions to the blade community I understand and respect your decision.
I suspect you'll be surprised at how many feel the same way I do.
Welcome to BFC.

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I cut it, and I cut it, and it's STILL too short!
 
Okay, you gave me the kick in the pants. I've started working on my long-promised archives page. Here's the start of it with several photos. I'll try to do more as I locate and scan them. Click on the thumbnails for larger photos and some text descriptions of the pieces.
http://comp.uark.edu/~tmaring/Cutlery.html

May the sword of your spirit shine with the light of a thousand suns.

Tom
 
Tom,

You used to make some of the most impressive stuff on the market. Have you given any though on putting together a book?

N2S

 
excellent idea! mr. maringer i wish you would...
such a book would have great appeal to makers, users like myself, and anyone who appreciates great and innovative knife art.
 
Well it was Couteaux that told me much avout you.. in your prime sir I was probably too young to know any better I was probably still playing with Legos
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. But yes by sheer chance I had stumbled onto some info about you and became very curious. Dug up lots of info but was not all there.. thanks for this post.. it really brings a closure to many of my questions.

Sadly I was not around to appreciate your work back in the day. I did read that you were the pioneer of Kydex and how you had that assistant in stage crew and all.. (etc etc) woudl liek to sayt that I have a lot of respect for the pioneer of kydex. It seems unjust that your contribution is taken lightly.

Good to hear from you sir.

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Actually... I did think long and hard about writing a book on swords and sword-making. Ken Warner at DBI was very encouraging, and ran it past the upper echelon. They felt that the market was too small to warrant a book-length work on modern sword-making. That was why a couple of the would-be chapters I was working on became installments in the KNIVES Annual series. But I never got any further than the introduction really. I guess I felt that the number of people who would be interested was probably greater than ten, but less than a hundred. Tough to make a go with a book with those kind of numbers.

I did a short synopsis of what I talked about in those articles over on the other thread on this forum, called "What makes a sword? Length? Purpose? What?"

I did end up writing a novel though... in case anybody is interested. It's entitled A SUPERIOR STATE OF AFFAIRS and is posted in its entirety over on my home page at http://comp.uark.edu/~tmaring/DIGGER.html
I didn't have much luck breaking into print with that either. It seems publishers don't read unsolicited manuscripts anymore. My only contact in the biz was Ken Warner. His comment after reading it was that the body count was too low... I didn't kill enough of the main characters. Oh well. Can't please everybody, but a lot of folks that have read it say they liked it a lot. If you have an "in" with a publisher or literary agent feel free to drop them this URL. For now, rather than have it gather dust on a shelf, I've posted it for anybody to enjoy who wishes to do so. Have fun!
Tom

 
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