ATTN: Those of you arguing in various threads about lock strengths

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If you actually are going to put so much stress or torque on the blade that you are worried about the manix lockback or strider framelock disengaging,

BUY A FIXED BLADE.
 
What if these people only want a folder and don't want to carry a fixed blade? :)
 
if they do any type of work where FB strength is necesarry i highly doubt there will be legal restrictions on carry

i mean yeah, you might not be able to carry concealed. so carry it open. if the job requires it nobody is gonna freak out because you have one.
 
ayzianboy said:
then they're dumb? :)
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I see nothing wrong with people looking for the strongest and best well made folder available to them. If people didn't demand these things and debate which is best then the knife makers wouldn't try harder to make better knives. If everyone just said "Screw folders, buy a fixed blade!" then there wouldn't be any reason for knife makers to make stronger folders.
 
WadeF said:
I see nothing wrong with people looking for the strongest and best well made folder available to them. If people didn't demand these things and debate which is best then the knife makers wouldn't try harder to make better knives. If everyone just said "Screw folders, buy a fixed blade!" then there wouldn't be any reason for knife makers to make stronger folders.
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i'm not saying the concept itself it stupid, i'm just saying that when you get to such high lock strengths as the manix and sebenza and strider, debating the differences between is kind of dumb and a fixed blade should be considered.

it's like trying to make your house bomb-proof and debating whether you want 10ft or 11ft thick walls. might want to look at a bomb shelter instead.
 
ayzianboy said:
it's like trying to make your house bomb-proof and debating whether you want 10ft or 11ft thick walls. might want to look at a bomb shelter instead.
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Debating such superior locks maybe DUMB, but debating them is half the FUN!
 
Its what guys do. We argue. About cars,guns,hot women and sports teams.Are the Red Sox really better than the Yankees? Your beer sucks mine is better, and on and on and on. I guess we can argue about knives too.In the end its all what makes a person happy that makes one thing better than another for THAT person.

BTW the correct answers are. a Corvette,Glock,my wife,the St Louis Cardinals,free beer, and oh yes the Manix. ;)
 
Johnny Blaze said:
nobody seems to have mentioned AXIS locks, hmm must be too strong to compete with the ones mentioned ;)
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Yeah, it's in a class all it's own. :P They claim if the AXIS lock fails, the lock bar would have to be pushed through the steel liners and handle material. It would do this before closing on your hand.

So if a lockback, liner, frame, compression, etc. lock fails, will the blade close on your hand? I think Benchmade should find some ways to make the Axis lock look more attractive and build it into some gent style knives.
 
I think that arguing pointless, or mostly "Pointed" (bad pun :barf: ) subjects is a healthy and intellectually stimulating pastime, when otherwise many of us could be looking for pornography instead. Folders are great, and why not look for and debate what is the strongest lock? safety is of supreme importance when you are dealing with sharps. But I think it is obvious that once you start doing twisting and prying with a knife, it is easier and more efficient, as well as safer, to use a fixed blade. Then again, what if it is in an emergency situation, and you dont have access to the FB? Best to have a strong lock, instead of cut fingers :D
 
silenthunterstudios said:
But Isn't A Folder Better Than A Crappy Fixed Blade?


:d
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SHS, after watching Sin City for the third time I finally got your signature... :D

Anyway, with most good folders, you're not going to break the lock with normal work, so unless you regularly use it as a prybar (Which, last I checked, was the purpose of prybars, not knives.), then why does it matter if the lock will only hold 400 lbs as opposed to 700? Who can apply 400 lbs to a knife lock accidentally?
 
if the lock will only hold 400 lbs as opposed to 700? Who can apply 400 lbs to a knife lock accidentally?[/QUOTE]

A 400 lbs man :D
 
Johnny Blaze said:
if the lock will only hold 400 lbs as opposed to 700? Who can apply 400 lbs to a knife lock accidentally?
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A 400 lbs man :D[/QUOTE]

I was trying to think up a funny scenerio where you might be able to bust a lock that can handle 700 pounds of force and I really couldn't think of anything that wasn't totally ridiculous. Like, using it to jack up your car or something.
 
There is nothing wrong with having equipment rated beyond its intended use. That gives you a buffer you can take for granted. Those who stress this equipment beyond even that and then celebrate having demonstrated its deficiency are not operating in the real world, or are driven by personal agendas having nothing to do with the knives themselves.

Folders are convenient in their own obvious ways, and will be more than strong enough for most of us. Of course fixed blades are also available, but often not as daily carry in many jurisdictions. Calling people dumb for complying with the law is counterproductive.

All knives past a certain level of strength, sharpness, and fit & finish are effectively equal, and can only be distinguished by individual choice based on price and preference for whatever non-functional characteristics seem to matter most to the buyer.



:D (( * S E B E N Z A * )) :D​
 
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