auction at factory

rosconey2

rosconey2

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on my way home today i noticed a hand made sign on the front doors saying a auction and had a date-nope cant remember-
i can check tomorrow
 
The auction is being held Sept. 17 and 18. Starts at 10:00. All equipment ,right down to the nuts and bolts is being auctioned. The inventory on knives is a separate sale but they may make deals. So I've been told.
Sorry to say but another part of American History is being sold to lowest bidder.
 
I just wonder if they have any becker blades in their stock.

They would be easy to make into a finished knife I would think with there simple design.
 
Sad indeed ,
grabbed these pics today.

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Any more info ????


Phil
 
If I was near that place on those dates, I'd be hitting the front door when they opened like my mother in law at the mall, on the day after Thanksgiving. :D
 
I am trying to work a way to get there. Not that I have the funds to buy much, but for the historical aspect. Bits and pieces are already surfacing on the market. It deserves to be recorded if preservation is not possible.

Recognize this piece?

50th Anniversary of the Battle for Iwo Jima Honoring the Third, Fourth and Fifth Divisions of the United States Marine Corps

Held at Hotel Syracuse, Syracuse, NY February 18, 1995

"Where Uncommon Valor was a Common Virtue" with the famous picture of the flag raising gold embossed from a hand cut brass die made fromt e actual Joe Rosenthal Photo taken on Mt. Suribachi and a personal message hand written as follows:

"2/18/95 To Camillus Cutlery, Inc. Thank you for your strong support of freedom and democracy! - Iwo Jima Committee"

On the back side of the print is a quote from Henry V Speech to the soldiers before Agincourt October 25, 1415. Print is matted.

Also included is a small glass holding sand from Iwo Jima. 4" tall. Label states: Iwo Jima Sand 50th Anniversary Presented February 18. 1995 At The Hotel Syracuse, Syracuse, New York.

Corked off and in excellent condition.



Codger
 
sunnyd said:
1894,

OK, I have thought about this statement for awhile now and I am a little unclear what you mean exactly. If you could explain, please.. :confused:
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I may be totaly wrong here , and if I am I hope to be corected .
Without letting this thread turn into another "blame game " PLEASE
I believe ( from the posts I've read here over the last 8 months or so )
That the origional owners decendents are living very well in Fla. They
aparently showed no intrest in running the Co. , hands on As thier predecessors did. My very uneducated opinion is that they just milked the factory for all they could , and then took a little more from the employees
and thier buisness partners ( Ie Becker) to boot.
When the well ran dry they just shut the doors on the oldest cuttlery in America.

If I am mistaken in anything I said , I hope that folks more knowledgable than me help to set me straight. I don't want to spread rumors and nonsense.

Phil
 
I was under the impression that it was the bankruptcy court/trustees who assigned the dissolution of assets to an auction company chosen at their discretion. There is a lawful bankruptcy dissolution order, right?

Codger
 
Codger_64 said:
I was under the impression that it was the bankruptcy court/trustees who assigned the dissolution of assets to an auction company chosen at their discretion. There is a lawful bankruptcy dissolution order, right?

Codger
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As I mentioned I have no first hand ( or even 2nd hand ) knowledge of what really happened or is happening . I'm just in a grump today and those auction signs yesterday just stuck in my craw. :mad:
My apologies for venting here :o:o:o
I love this forum and feel bad for the employees , and also feel guilty that I didn't buy many of thier knifes while they were still in buisness :thumbdn:

Phil
 
Phil, I don't really think a point or two more of market share would have changed a thing. The writing was on the wall more or less, as far back as '03-'04. As I have said before and still maintain, the fact that Camillus survived as long as it did was mostly due to the contributions and sacrifices of the employees and attending management. Oh... and the engineers and designers whose royalties went unpaid in spite of their stellar work. Yeah, you weren't entirely wrong.

Codger
 
1894,

For the most part, you are correct. However, it is my understanding, that the "sweet, nice Floridian owners" (sorry no blame game - my bad) have no interest whatsoever, with Camillus anymore. The bank, who holds Camillus' debt has taken over the company and is trying to recoup some of their money. The bank is out of Texas.

IMHO, the money they'll get from selling the antiquated machinery will probably not even make a dent in money due. The number of "viable, updated" machinery there can be counted on one hand and probably still have a couple of fingers left over. We'll see soon enough! I will probably attend just for the entertainment value alone.
 
cookie9 said:
The inventory on knives is a separate sale but they may make deals. So I've been told.
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Not to come off as a vulture, but does anyone know more about this, i.e. if and when there will be a separate sale for knives and knife parts?
 
longbeachguy said:
Not to come off as a vulture, but does anyone know more about this, i.e. if and when there will be a separate sale for knives and knife parts?
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Wow lbg, you took the words out of my mouth. My understanding is Camillus never through away or disposed of any knife parts as they re-used many of them on later projects. So assuming this to be true until the bitter end, one wonders what still exists behind those doors.. Pehaps Thomas J Leggitt could chime in here as he has the first hand knowlede of what still may exist.

1894,

Thanks very kindly for the explanation for your post. In fact, I learned a lot of background in the last several responses from you Codger and RickR.
 
Guys and girls,
The knives that are inventoried in the packing and shipping departments are being moved out to a new location for a sale at a later date. All loose knives that are laying around are being sold to the public at the auction.Some of these are good quality, others need work. As far as parts are concern they are for sale in lots and there will be an upcharge fee the same as if you were buying equipment.Unless you know what your looking for it may not be worth your time to go.All of the collectables are gone!!!!
If your in the market for scrap, you are in luck.
 
Much of the blade inventory left behind when we were forced out on 2/28 were Cold Steel and Becker, both carbon and very probably rusted at this point. Most were in various stages of production and very few are 'finished'. We had disposed of most of the finished inventory of knives before closing. They are many, many components, ie scales, bolsters, handles, blades of various types; probably only of value to scrap and repair type people. As Cookie mentioned all of the valuable collector type stuff went with the owners. For any of my old comrades I plan to be there as a representative of my new employer to look at some of the tool room equipment and to view the place where I spent 30 years giving my all to a family that never knew how to appreciate that. Hope to see many of you.

Dave
 
silenthunterstudios said:
What happened to customers warranty pieces? Are they being sold too?
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It was posted around the time of the closing that an employee spent most of his time for the last two weeks personally repairing and returning warranty knives. Most all were thus repaired and returned, or returned.
NYknifegirl said:

ALL of the knives that were sent in for repair have been repaired and have shipped back to their rightful owners this week. Anything sent in during the past week have been "return to the sender" as unopened. We had many many knives that were sent in for repair yet we could not spare anyone due to focusing on the production side of things, that was until a kind hearted Camillus employee of 30+years, Ron P. (Kong) got wind of this and took it upon himself to repair ALL of the knives that have been sitting on pending repair trays for months, Kudos to you Ron! I know there will be many smiling faces on all of these concerned customers once they receive their repaired knives. I want to close by saying it has been a pleasure dealing with all of you devoted customers of Camillus Cutlery as well as the employees I have come to know over the few years I have been with the company (you will all be missed!) :(
Future reference for repairs:
The Knife Doctor, Knife Repair & Restoration
Mr. Eugene Blankenship
731-723-7575 or email: KnifeDoctor@aol.com
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rpassardi said:
On the returned knives at the plant. As of 2/27/07 i have for the last two weeks been doing nothing but customer repairs.I took it upon myself to make sure that every customer got what BELONGED to THEM BACK. They owned the knives and in many cases the ones i could not find parts for i replaced with newer style parts or new knives.Their are still a few of us here that believe in taking care of our loyal customers.Now the trick is finding the money to get them shipped back out but rest assured i will be jumping all over those in charge to get my work sent back out.
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Codger
 
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