Autism--parents and research

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I read this article over the weekend. I wonder what fellow forumites might have to say, especially those with family members affected by this or other disorders. I especially want to know haw many of those formites read primary source material-- in other words, where do you get your information?


June 25, 2005
On Autism's Cause, It's Parents vs. Research
By GARDINER HARRIS and ANAHAD O'CONNOR
The New York Times

Kristen Ehresmann, a Minnesota Department of Health official, had just told a State Senate hearing that vaccines with microscopic amounts of mercury were safe. Libby Rupp, a mother of a 3-year-old girl with autism, was incredulous.

"How did my daughter get so much mercury in her?" Ms. Rupp asked Ms. Ehresmann after her testimony.

"Fish?" Ms. Ehresmann suggested.

"She never eats it," Ms. Rupp answered.

"Do you drink tap water?"

"It's all filtered."

"Well, do you breathe the air?" Ms. Ehresmann asked, with a resigned smile. Several parents looked angrily at Ms. Ehresmann, who left.

Ms. Rupp remained, shaking with anger. That anyone could defend mercury in vaccines, she said, "makes my blood boil."

Public health officials like Ms. Ehresmann, who herself has a son with autism, have been trying for years to convince parents like Ms. Rupp that there is no link between thimerosal - a mercury-containing preservative once used routinely in vaccines - and autism.

They have failed.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration, the Institute of Medicine, the World Health Organization and the American Academy of Pediatrics have all largely dismissed the notion that thimerosal causes or contributes to autism. Five major studies have found no link.

Yet despite all evidence to the contrary, the number of parents who blame thimerosal for their children's autism has only increased. And in recent months, these parents have used their numbers, their passion and their organizing skills to become a potent national force. The issue has become one of the most fractious and divisive in pediatric medicine.

"This is like nothing I've ever seen before," Dr. Melinda Wharton, deputy director of the National Immunization Program, told a gathering of immunization officials in Washington in March. "It's an era where it appears that science isn't enough."

Parents have filed more than 4,800 lawsuits - 200 from February to April alone - pushed for state and federal legislation banning thimerosal and taken out full-page advertisements in major newspapers. They have also gained the support of politicians, including Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, Democrat of Connecticut, and Representatives Dan Burton, Republican of Indiana, and Dave Weldon, Republican of Florida. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wrote an article in the June 16 issue of Rolling Stone magazine arguing that most studies of the issue are flawed and that public health officials are conspiring with drug makers to cover up the damage caused by thimerosal.

"We're not looking like a fringe group anymore," said Becky Lourey, a Minnesota state senator and a sponsor of a proposed thimerosal ban. Such a ban passed the New York State Legislature this week.

But scientists and public health officials say they are alarmed by the surge of attention to an idea without scientific merit. The anti-thimerosal campaign, they say, is causing some parents to stay away from vaccines, placing their children at risk for illnesses like measles and polio.

"It's really terrifying, the scientific illiteracy that supports these suspicions," said Dr. Marie McCormick, chairwoman of an Institute of Medicine panel that examined the controversy in February 2004.

Experts say they are also concerned about a raft of unproven, costly and potentially harmful treatments - including strict diets, supplements and a detoxifying technique called chelation - that are being sold for tens of thousands of dollars to desperate parents of autistic children as a cure for "mercury poisoning."

In one case, a doctor forced children to sit in a 160-degree sauna, swallow 60 to 70 supplements a day and have so much blood drawn that one child passed out.

Hundreds of doctors list their names on a Web site endorsing chelation to treat autism, even though experts say that no evidence supports its use with that disorder. The treatment carries risks of liver and kidney damage, skin rashes and nutritional deficiencies, they say.

In recent months, the fight over thimerosal has become even more bitter. In response to a barrage of threatening letters and phone calls, the centers for disease control has increased security and instructed employees on safety issues, including how to respond if pies are thrown in their faces. One vaccine expert at the centers wrote in an internal e-mail message that she felt safer working at a malaria field station in Kenya than she did at the agency's offices in Atlanta.

An Alarm Is Sounded

Thimerosal was for decades the favored preservative for use in vaccines. By weight, it is about 50 percent ethyl mercury, a form of mercury most scientists consider to be less toxic than methyl mercury, the type found in fish. The amount of ethyl mercury included in each childhood vaccine was once roughly equal to the amount of methyl mercury found in the average tuna sandwich.

In 1999, a Food and Drug Administration scientist added up all the mercury that American infants got with a full immunization schedule and concluded that the amount exceeded a government guideline. Some health authorities counseled no action, because there was no evidence that thimerosal at the doses given was harmful and removing it might cause alarm. Others were not so certain that thimerosal was harmless.

In July 1999, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Public Health Service released a joint statement urging vaccine makers to remove thimerosal as quickly as possible. By 2001, no vaccine routinely administered to children in the United States had more than half of a microgram of mercury - about what is found in an infant's daily supply of breast milk.

Despite the change, government agencies say that vaccines with thimerosal are just as safe as those without, and adult flu vaccines still contain the preservative.

But the 1999 advisory alarmed many parents whose children suffered from autism, a lifelong disorder marked by repetitive, sometimes self-destructive behaviors and an inability to form social relationships. In 10 to 25 percent of cases, autism seems to descend on young children seemingly overnight, sometime between their first and second birthdays.

Diagnoses of autism have risen sharply in recent years, from roughly 1 case for every 10,000 births in the 1980's to 1 in 166 births in 2003.

Most scientists believe that the illness is influenced strongly by genetics but that some unknown environmental factor may also play a role.

Dr. Tom Insel, director of the National Institute for Mental Health, said: "Is it cellphones? Ultrasound? Diet sodas? Every parent has a theory. At this point, we just don't know."

In 2000, a group of parents joined together to found SafeMinds, one of several organizations that argue that thimerosal is that environmental culprit. Their cause has been championed by politicians like Mr. Burton.

"My grandson received nine shots in one day, seven of which contained thimerosal, which is 50 percent mercury as you know, and he became autistic a short time later," he said in an interview.

In a series of House hearings held from 2000 through 2004, Mr. Burton called the leading experts who assert that vaccines cause autism to testify. They included a chemistry professor at the University of Kentucky who says that dental fillings cause or exacerbate autism and other diseases and a doctor from Baton Rouge, La., who says that God spoke to her through an 87-year-old priest and told her that vaccines caused autism.

Also testifying were Dr. Mark Geier and his son, David Geier, the experts whose work is most frequently cited by parents.

Trying to Build a Case

Dr. Geier has called the use of thimerosal in vaccines the world's "greatest catastrophe that's ever happened, regardless of cause."

He and his son live and work in a two-story house in suburban Maryland. Past the kitchen and down the stairs is a room with cast-off, unplugged laboratory equipment, wall-to-wall carpeting and faux wood paneling that Dr. Geier calls "a world-class lab - every bit as good as anything at N.I.H."

Dr. Geier has been examining issues of vaccine safety since at least 1971, when he was a lab assistant at the National Institutes of Health, or N.I.H. His résumé lists scores of publications, many of which suggest that vaccines cause injury or disease.

He has also testified in more than 90 vaccine cases, he said, although a judge in a vaccine case in 2003 ruled that Dr. Geier was "a professional witness in areas for which he has no training, expertise and experience."

In other cases, judges have called Dr. Geier's testimony "intellectually dishonest," "not reliable" and "wholly unqualified."

The six published studies by Dr. Geier and David Geier on the relationship between autism and thimerosal are largely based on complaints sent to the disease control centers by people who suspect that their children were harmed by vaccines.

In the first study, the Geiers compared the number of complaints associated with a thimerosal-containing vaccine, given from 1992 to 2000, with the complaints that resulted from a thimerosal-free version given from 1997 to 2000. The more thimerosal a child received, they concluded, the more likely an autism complaint was filed. Four other studies used similar methods and came to similar conclusions.

Dr. Geier said in an interview that the link between thimerosal and autism was clear.

Public health officials, he said, are " just trying to cover it up."

Assessing the Studies

Scientists say that the Geiers' studies are tainted by faulty methodology.

"The problem with the Geiers' research is that they start with the answers and work backwards," said Dr. Steven Black, director of the Kaiser Permanente Vaccine Study Center in Oakland, Calif. "They are doing voodoo science."

Dr. Julie L. Gerberding, the director of the disease control centers, said the agency was not withholding information about any potentially damaging effects of thimerosal.

"There's certainly not a conspiracy here," she said. "And we would never consider not acknowledging information or evidence that would have a bearing on children's health."

In 2003, spurred by parents' demands, the C.D.C. asked the Institute of Medicine, an arm of the National Academy of Sciences and the nation's most prestigious medical advisory group, to review the evidence on thimerosal and autism.

In a report last year, a panel convened by the institute dismissed the Geiers' work as having such serious flaws that their studies were "uninterpretable." Some of the Geiers' mathematical formulas, the committee found, "provided no information," and the Geiers used basic scientific terms like "attributable risk" incorrectly.

In contrast, the committee found five studies that examined hundreds of thousands of health records of children in the United States, Britain, Denmark and Sweden to be persuasive.

A study by the World Health Organization, for example, examined the health records of 109,863 children born in Britain from 1988 to 1997 and found that children who had received the most thimerosal in vaccines had the lowest incidence of developmental problems like autism.

Another study examined the records of 467,450 Danish children born from 1990 to 1996. It found that after 1992, when the country's only thimerosal-containing vaccine was replaced by one free of the preservative, autism rates rose rather than fell.

In one of the most comprehensive studies, a 2003 report by C.D.C. scientists examined the medical records of more than 125,000 children born in the United States from 1991 to 1999. It found no difference in autism rates among children exposed to various amounts of thimerosal.

Parent groups, led by SafeMinds, replied that documents obtained from the disease control centers showed that early versions of the study had found a link between thimerosal and autism.

But C.D.C. researchers said that it was not unusual for studies to evolve as more data and controls were added. The early versions of the study, they said, failed to control for factors like low birth weight, which increases the risk of developmental delays.

The Institute of Medicine said that it saw "nothing inherently troubling" with the C.D.C.'s adjustments and concluded that thimerosal did not cause autism. Further studies, the institute said, would not be "useful."

Threats and Conspiracy Talk

Since the report's release, scientists and health officials have been bombarded with hostile e-mail messages and phone calls. Dr. McCormick, the chairwoman of the institute's panel, said she had received threatening mail claiming that she was part of a conspiracy. Harvard University has increased security at her office, she said.

An e-mail message to the C.D.C. on Nov. 28 stated, "Forgiveness is between them and God. It is my job to arrange a meeting," according to records obtained by The New York Times after the filing of an open records request.

Another e-mail message, sent to the C.D.C. on Aug. 20, said, "I'd like to know how you people sleep straight in bed at night knowing all the lies you tell & the lives you know full well you destroy with the poisons you push & protect with your lies." Lynn Redwood of SafeMinds said that such e-mail messages did not represent her organization or other advocacy groups.

In response to the threats, C.D.C. officials have contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation and heightened security at the disease control centers. Some officials said that the threats had led them to look for other jobs.

In "Evidence of Harm," a book published earlier this year that is sympathetic to the notion that thimerosal causes autism, the author, David Kirby, wrote that the thimerosal theory would stand or fall within the next year or two.

Because autism is usually diagnosed sometime between a child's third and fourth birthdays and thimerosal was largely removed from childhood vaccines in 2001, the incidence of autism should fall this year, he said.

No such decline followed thimerosal's removal from vaccines during the 1990's in Denmark, Sweden or Canada, researchers say.

But the debate over autism and vaccines is not likely to end soon.

"It doesn't seem to matter what the studies and the data show," said Ms. Ehresmann, the Minnesota immunization official. "And that's really scary for us because if science doesn't count, how do we make decisions? How do we communicate with parents?"
 
I remember there being a large discussion about autism and its links to a certain triple-vaccine, a few years ago.

My wife was a bit apprehensive in letting our kids receive the vaccine (at 18 mo.) but the doctors explained it as : those that got autism from the vaccine already had the latent gene (sic) and would have fared even worse if they had gotton one of the diseases the vaccine was trying to prevent, i.e. they would have died or been in an even more vegatative state.

IIRC the US army had a similar catch 22 with their smallpox vaccine.
 
I read nothing but primary sources. My degree demands such things. ;)

50% Mercury in thimerosol? Yeah bloody right, lady. No way. While heavy metal poisoning can lead to retardation, there is NO link betwixt vaccines and autism that any reputable journal I have seen has identified.

Get the link published in the JAMA, Lancet, Nature, or Science, and I will believe. Email horror stories don't cut it.
 
shaldag said:
Diagnoses of autism have risen sharply in recent years, from roughly 1 case for every 10,000 births in the 1980's to 1 in 166 births in 2003.

Most scientists believe that the illness is influenced strongly by genetics but that some unknown environmental factor may also play a role.

The first sentence is alarming. The second doesn't satisfy my curiousity whatsoever. We really do need answers. :(
 
The problem is a breakdown in science teaching in our schools. No, not science teaching to the affected children, but to their parents.

Oh, I understand that not everyone is gonna be a scientist. But everyone needs to be taught a little bit about scientific thinking.

They ned to be taught about the fallacy of the sample-on-one. Just because your grandchild was diagnosed with autism shortly after receiving nine vaccinations in one day does not mean that all vaccinations cause autism. You have to look at larger populations. The data from Sweeden and Denmark, for example, is damning to the autism/mercury link.

You have to look at things in proportion too. Thimerosol may be 50% mercury, and mercury is a well-known poison. But the amount of Thimerosol contained in a vaccination is "microscopic." The comparisons to tuna sandwiches and brest milk are telling.

People also have to understand a bit of basic chemistry. Sodium, for example, is also poisonous. Chlorine certainly is a deadly poison. But the combination of the two is table salt. Water is two-parts Hydrogen, a very explosive chemical. But we pour water on fires to put them out. The fact that some or all of the components in something is poisonous does not make the product poisonous.

I feel very sorry for the parents of autistic children. But the solution won't be found nor will your children be benefitted from this sort of thinking.
 
We have had many discussions on this topic in the "Science and Medicine" forum over at the James Randi board. Time and again, this has been shown to be nonsense. Desperate parents (egged on by lawyers) must have a "cause" that they can nail down.
News released in the last couple of days indicate that they are closing in on a set of genes that are probably responsible for the tragic condition.
 
I've read about the controversy. I agree that the biggest problem right now is the lack of appreciation for the basic mechanisms of science on the part of the general population. Opposition to thimerosal is almost literally a witch hunt, an attempt to demonize some factor to relieve the stress of seeing someone you love in pain.

Unfortunately, it seems to have gotten so bad that when science does find the true causes of autism, some of these people are going to call it a coverup, and refuse to believe. Fanatics can only be convinced once ...

What I also find interesting is the supposed catastrophic increase in autism cases, and the parallel increase of diagnoses of Asperger's syndrome, which is being pushed as a form of autism. Asperger's is even being back-diagnosed on people who are dead now (and very clumsily diagnosed, from what I've read).

There are hints of a marketing phenomenon here, and it's not by the pharmaceutical companies, either.
 
Yes the average american knows nothing about even the basics of science.The are many subjects where innane comments are made .Such as cell phone towers -if theyknew the basic scientific fact that the intensity is cut to 25% if the distance is doubled - they would be asking for taller towers. My thoughts about autism is that we give far more shots to kids that earlier times and those are young kids with undeveloped immune systems which get a huge shock from the shots. As mercury is removed from the shots what are they going to blame then ?? www.junkscience.com
 
Imagine having a traditional picnic lunch: potato salad, hotdogs, chips, and cookies for desert.

A few hours later, you're frightfully ill with food poisoning. What caused it? It must have been the cookies! That was the last thing you ate, so that must be it. Right? Of course right!




In actuality, it was probably the potato salad. The last thing you ate is not necessarily the cause of your illness. Similarly, just because your child had vaccinations shortly before developing diagnosable autism, does not necessarily make the vaccination the cause.
 
As the father of a 15 year old Autisic child I often wonder Why is my child Autistic?? there has to be a reason. For years my wife and I blamed the medication Pitosin (spelled wrong Im sure) which is the labor inducing medication that is widely used in hospitals across the world. Once at a Autism conference in Pittsburg my wife and I posed this question to a stadium full of parents of autistic children. Do you feel that pitosin is the reason your child is Autistic. Over a third of the hands went up.

I believe that parents of Autistic children are desperate for answers. I cannot tell you the hours of desperation, pain, guilt, that my wife and I share with knowing that we have a son who has a incurable neurological disorder. We like other parents are desperate for a answer to why our son is Autistic and what is the cause of his Autism. We are also desperate for a cure. I know that if a cure was found and it cost everything we owned we would sell our house, cars, knives, everything and live in a flop house the rest of our lives to buy that cure.

This is in essence why parents lunge at the mercury theory inspite of modern science disproving the theory that mercury could be the cause of Autism in thier child. For years my wife and I followed the junk science. We still recieve a newsletter quarterly from the DAN protocol (defeat Autism now) In this periodical there are often reasearch studies on food additives, medicines, foods, that may improve cognative development or may possibly be a cause of autism.

Recently NBC did a huge expose' on Autism because the Executive Director of NBC news son was diagnosed as being Autistic. In this expose they referred to Autism as a emerging epidemic. Like it something you can catch from eating bad sushi....Is there more cases of Autism now than 10 years ago..?? Yes..are the diagnosis tools for defining Autism greatly improved..Yes..is there more autism or is the medical community better at defining it?? no one can answer that question.

So in the end parents are left with a raft of crap science, unsubstantiated scientific claims for cures ( and yes my wife and i tried the GHB at $180 a bottle from Russia because he was our kid and we love him and had to try anything once) but in the end I see my son and my nephew who is 4 days older, both at age 15 now...Christopher is playing drums in a band, he has a letter jacket from running cross country in school, he has friends, you can have a intelligent conversation with him. Alex my son still cannot tie his shoes, wash his hair, will probably never drive a car, and cannot communicate except to blurt information he has read from books. The pain in the comparison is enough to make you want to die.....

SO in the end my wife and I have learned that the only way to live is to Laugh instead of cry. To live day by day...and to accept that even if it is Mercury, or pitosin, or Mold, or electromagnetic radiation, that he will still be and always be Autistic. And we love him and are proud of him for who and what he is and will become because God has a purpose for his life and It is really only our job to love him and try and raise him up the way he should go...

my two cents..

Ren
 
Thank you for your replies.

I am concerned about this. It reflects the lack of value placed on science by society. Even worse, as Gollnck pointed out, it refelcts the lack of knowledge about science in society.

Of course I strongly resent the portion of society that will look to Tom Cruise for answers rather than the doctors and scientists who at least TRY to understand the problems.

However, I do know that no medical/scientifc question is without controversy.

And it is impossible not to sympathise with parents and family of people with "incurable" disorders. These people are desperate, and so far, medical science has let them down.

As for those who prey on these families and profiteer from their misery--
well, it may not be a crime, but I know a sin when I see one.

The only other thing that I have to say is that just a few years ago, neuroscientists were not addressing autism because we had no starting point--no basic theories. The number of funded research projects on autism and related disorders has multiplied enormously. Researchers are now beginning to feel that there may be ways to investigate genetic and environmental causes of the disease. Equally important, we now have techniues to investigate the anatomical/neurochemical/physiological; mechanisms mediating the symptoms. People are starting to develop appropriate animal models for the disease, which will allow for testing of therapeutic approaches. We are at least now beginning to deal with the problem.
 
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