Axe head weights, descriptions vs. scale weights and haft vintages

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I assumed I had a ??# 1945 Army hatchet, 2# Boy Scout hatchet, 3# general/generic "Plumb" and a 4# Victory. Similarly with the Collins axes, 2.5# boys axe and a 4 & 5# Legitimus.

When I put them on an accurate scale (clean axe heads only) They weigh all over the place. None of these are pretty axes either --they have all been used, abused and most of them have been introduced to a bench grinder at some point. What I thought was a Plumb 4# Victory is noticeably smaller than the 5# Legitimus, is VERY well acquainted with the bench grinder but still weighed in at just over 4.3#. Similarly, I own a 5# Legitimus and an unknown 4.6# Legitimus.

The only things that I can confirm about most of these axes are that they are legit/not fakes and that they are all very different vintages. Should I not worry about what they are and just use them? When did a fawn's foot go from a sharp angle to cut off at the tip a little bit?

Besides profile, what are the weight and type differences between a Plumb 1945 Army and a (later, I assume 70's or maybe 80's) Boy Scout? When did Collins start using the rectangle around the logo and ditch the other details in the stamp? What's the difference between two axe heads marked Plumb & Plumb Victory that are stamped almost exactly the same --and a Plumb Boy Scout hatchet logo that looks like the "PLUMB" is in bold, there is a double line in the rectangle around the logo and the word "PLUMB" looks like it has horizontal lines inside the letters?

How do I date these things and know what they are? For the record, nothing is in decent condition. These are all daily use axes, just curious.

Thanks.
 
You've got our attention. What we need now is pictures. There is a lot of stamped stuff there so maybe you want to slow down and feature these one or two at a time. Were a 4# Plumb Victory head to weigh more than 4 lbs after being amateur-ground down we'd also like to know and see the evidence.
 
Sorry... A certain 4-letter word (work) has been kicking me in the rear end lately... I promise I'll get photos up of the heads, stamps and weights (grams on an electric scale). The ~4# Legitimus and ~4# Victory were $3/ea garage sale axes which were owned and used by a gentleman who owned a landscaping business. His kids were cleaning everything out and selling "stuff" to pay for funeral costs.

The only thing I can say is that I bought a bunch of stuff from them. In the end I was arguing with them trying to pay them more than twice the amount they were asking because the kids had no idea what their dad had. After trips to three different ATMs it was a fight but they took my money and everyone walked away smiling. Everything this guy had was top quality brands/names and looked to have been maintained very well. All SK, Billings and (old) Craftsman tools, old Klein tools (stamped M Klein & Sons), etc. He had double and triple spares of everything and a lot of the spares were still in the packaging with receipts taped or stapled to them. Given what he had, I highly doubt that he would have ever purchased anything that was not real/legit --but who knows...

These specific axes look to have been hanging on a rack/hooks in the back of a truck/trailer (given the wear marks), look to have been used probably daily/often and were no stranger to the bench grinder. That's probably why the weights are off --but I don't understand the size differences. (in the time it took me to type this I could have taken photos and uploaded... :mad:) The 5# Legitimus I'm comparing all of this to I have uploaded photos of before --it was her grandfather's and he was a tool & die maker so a similar situation, while I can't verify, there is a #5 stamped under the butt of the 5# Legitimus and I salivate every time I go down in her dad's basement and check out her grandfather's tools.

Photos & weights to come shortly. Thanks for the interest in this thread/question.
 
Axe weights are just approximates especially after they have been ground down. Then the scale likely has not been calibrated nor bears a certified correct sticker. So, these heads could be off. Still, you have found some good name axes and worthy to keep. DM
 
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