Axemanship Technique?

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Now that I've been bitten by the axe bug and have several axes, hatchets, and mauls - some ready to use and others in various stages of restoration, I want to learn to use them properly. Our primary source of heat here is wood so I turn a lot of trees into firewood every year. I do not think I will give up my chainsaws and hydraulic splitter but do want to use hand tools more.

I've had an axe or two around here for many years and occasionally one has gotten swung but rarely. Is there a video or something that addresses proper stance, grip, swing technique etc - for felling, limbing, and splitting? There's a dead elm tree across the road and I'd like to fell with a double bit when the weather gets cooler and go from there!

Thank you and Happy Fourth of July!
 
Right off the top of my head, I would say search for " An axe to grind". You will find two parts; part one is a tutorial on hanging and sharpening an axe, while part 2 covers axe types and techniques for felling limbing and bucking.

http://youtu.be/p-wXYgwjcqw

Above is a link to part 2
 
There's also a very useful old book by Dudley Cook, but I forget the name. If you get that, don't get too swept up in his edge angle and straight handle arguments. Lots of good info on reading trees and on other hand logging tools.
I'd say the main thing is don't swing hard but place accurately.
 
The main thing(s) to remember about axes and hatchets is to keep 'em sharp, look exactly where you intend the axe blade to go (...kinda like playin baseball...), let the axe head do the work (...dont swing too hard...), when limbing a downed tree, make sure you are standing on the opposite side of the trunk from the limbs you are cutting off. If you are an old coot (...i am, 66...) take a break every now and then and dont get winded. It's been 50 or so years since i limbed timber and cut pulpwood. It's real work. Be careful and have fun. The more ya practice, the better you'll get.

leroy
 
If you get that, don't get too swept up in his edge angle and straight handle arguments.

I thought those were the most important parts of the book, myself. I think if people used axes in line with those two criteria, we'd be happier choppers. All the axes that I've thinned to old time standards cut extremely well.
 
I thought those were the most important parts of the book, myself. I think if people used axes in line with those two criteria, we'd be happier choppers. All the axes that I've thinned to old time standards cut extremely well.
You're probably right, but I'm not sure there isn't an ergonomic advantage to the bend at the knob. And if you go glassy-eyed at the angles within angles, as I admittedly did, or if his description doesn't seem to match your axe pattern, there's still plenty of good stuff in the book.
 
Well, i am not an expert like some of the guys here, but I will say this. Keep the axe so when you swing down to contact, the handle position will be parallel to the ground. You will see a lot of people talk about this, but I can't stress this enough, especially for a guy like me who has not been using an axe for many years. It is easy to forget this too, but try not to forget. If your axe goes past parallel, you can miss and take out a leg. Bend at the knees, and keep that handle parallel, and have fun practicing your technique. I swing a sledge for a living, but there is nothing like getting the "swing" of using a nice sharp axe. Good luck!

dave
 
...There's a dead elm tree across the road and I'd like to fell with a double bit when the weather gets cooler and go from there!

Elm has interlocking grain, and is 'difficult' to split. That is why it was used to make things like chair seats,
or wheel hubs ie things with a lot of holes in, but needed strength too.
I wouldn't advise trying to use your axe on it to make firewood.

It will however make a superb fencing mallet (wood sledgehammer) - Fred Flinstone style.
Mine is 17 years old now, and still going strong.
 
Thanks everyone - I will watch the videos and just ordered The Ax Book from ABE books. And Stickwhistler - you are right about splitting elm but since the tree needs to come down and is not all that big, I thought I might make felling it with an axe one of my first efforts. I can split it with Big Bad John (hydraulic splitter).
 
You're probably right, but I'm not sure there isn't an ergonomic advantage to the bend at the knob. And if you go glassy-eyed at the angles within angles, as I admittedly did, or if his description doesn't seem to match your axe pattern, there's still plenty of good stuff in the book.

I don't think Cook wrote quite enough about handles in general, but I do think the line of the grip is usually a good indicator of whether the handle will be ergonomic and sparing for the user. Nothing says you cannot have an ergonomic grip without the result causing that line of the lower grip to be drastically altered as they usually do on "curved" handles. I prefer a curved handle to a straight on almost every time, but the line of grip has to be just so.

After I read Peter's addendum to one of the posts on Axeconnected, I made a pretty revelatory connection.

" A little background:
During the early stages of my ax sharpening search, the local old timers were rather vague with advice. They plainly did not think of head/edge shaping in terms of specific angles; if I showed them one of my axes, they felt the bit between their thumb and first finger and (usually) declared it too thick here or there… Only one of them, Arnold Hanscomb, was explicit: he laid a file between the edge and the centre of the ax's eye and said but one word: "FLAT! " He fixed my gaze and repeated "Flat… then you will have an ax that cuts." ALL our axes back then failed that parameter, most of them miserably. Though I later tried to meet his specs, I too failed, mostly because it took a lot of time along with many good files to properly convert the worn and abused old axes we had collected, which had the cheeks too thick to allow for the file (or other straight edge) to lay 'flat' -- that is to contact at once the eye and (almost) the edge.

Some years later I came across Dudley Cook's Keeping Warm with an Ax (now published as The Ax Book) and grasped a few additional details which the old Arnold did not mention, but understood himself, I believe.
Cook, by the way, was far more explicit with regard to ax sharpening than anyone else whose written advice I've come across to date. The angles he offered for the respective parts of the head geometry are, I believe, very sound. Arnold's suggestion of a 'flat' line between the edge and eye more or less corresponds to Cook's 10 degrees. BUT, that holds true to within 1/16" (for felling ax) to 1/8 " (for swamping/limbing) of the very edge -- where the combined angle is gradually increased to approximately 30 degrees in order to provide the needed crumble resistance. Well, 30 degrees or so means lifting the file (or stone) so that it aims about finger thickness above the face. This applies, more or less to majority of North American axes, the thickness of which at the centre of the eye ranges from 1" to 1-1/8". "

If you take a properly filed axe, and compare it to a typical restoration by giving it that little straight edge test, even without messing around with angles you can immediately store a mental image of what it should look like, and you'll know where to file and how much with a little practice. And Peter is right-- it can take a lot of filing to bring it down to where it needs to be.
 
G-pig, that sounds very helpful. It might even penetrate my skull after a few readings and filings.
 
G-pig, that sounds very helpful. It might even penetrate my skull after a few readings and filings.

If it made it into my head, chances are it's pretty simple. I have too many friggin' tools to take care of to mess with stuff that is not quintessentially simple and effective.
 
I don't think Cook wrote quite enough about handles in general, but I do think the line of the grip is usually a good indicator of whether the handle will be ergonomic and sparing for the user. Nothing says you cannot have an ergonomic grip without the result causing that line of the lower grip to be drastically altered as they usually do on "curved" handles. I prefer a curved handle to a straight on almost every time, but the line of grip has to be just so.

After I read Peter's addendum to one of the posts on Axeconnected, I made a pretty revelatory connection.

" A little background:
During the early stages of my ax sharpening search, the local old timers were rather vague with advice. They plainly did not think of head/edge shaping in terms of specific angles; if I showed them one of my axes, they felt the bit between their thumb and first finger and (usually) declared it too thick here or there… Only one of them, Arnold Hanscomb, was explicit: he laid a file between the edge and the centre of the ax's eye and said but one word: "FLAT! " He fixed my gaze and repeated "Flat… then you will have an ax that cuts." ALL our axes back then failed that parameter, most of them miserably. Though I later tried to meet his specs, I too failed, mostly because it took a lot of time along with many good files to properly convert the worn and abused old axes we had collected, which had the cheeks too thick to allow for the file (or other straight edge) to lay 'flat' -- that is to contact at once the eye and (almost) the edge.

Some years later I came across Dudley Cook's Keeping Warm with an Ax (now published as The Ax Book) and grasped a few additional details which the old Arnold did not mention, but understood himself, I believe.
Cook, by the way, was far more explicit with regard to ax sharpening than anyone else whose written advice I've come across to date. The angles he offered for the respective parts of the head geometry are, I believe, very sound. Arnold's suggestion of a 'flat' line between the edge and eye more or less corresponds to Cook's 10 degrees. BUT, that holds true to within 1/16" (for felling ax) to 1/8 " (for swamping/limbing) of the very edge -- where the combined angle is gradually increased to approximately 30 degrees in order to provide the needed crumble resistance. Well, 30 degrees or so means lifting the file (or stone) so that it aims about finger thickness above the face. This applies, more or less to majority of North American axes, the thickness of which at the centre of the eye ranges from 1" to 1-1/8". "

If you take a properly filed axe, and compare it to a typical restoration by giving it that little straight edge test, even without messing around with angles you can immediately store a mental image of what it should look like, and you'll know where to file and how much with a little practice. And Peter is right-- it can take a lot of filing to bring it down to where it needs to be.

having a hard time visualizing this. Can you post a closeup picture of one of your sharpened axes
 
Sure thing coop.

I just use the straight edge, or file, to gauge where I need to be doing more filing.



Looking this way ye can see the point of contact. That hump needs to be thinned down and gradualized into the context of the face of the axe. You can file the hell out of the face without negating the effect of the high centerline. If you just sharpen a bevel radially, the axe hardly penetrates at all, so the high centerline doesn't even need to be there to prevent binding in the first place. There'll always be a point of contact, its just a matter of optimizing the shape for the intended use. In this case, trying to gain more penetration.



Here's pointing to where it needs more filing. This changes and goes further back the more you file. You'll need to work on the rest of the face as well-- the first 1/2 inch or 3/4 or something.



Here's an axe done more up to my standards-- filed way the hell back from the edge. Almost "done" but I will leave it a bit meaty for durability sake.

 
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