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Just returned from Nellis AFB where our organization participated in Red Flag 09-02. We are the first squadron of Air Force civilians to deploy and participate in a combat training exercise under HPO guidelines. We raised a lot of eyebrows among the military regulars at first but we proved we could hold our own.

For those unfamiliar with Red Flag, there is a hulu broadcast at Fighter Pilot - Operation Red Flag. It was produced as an I-Max feature and runs about 48 minutes but it’s worth watching for the insight, the flying videos, and weapons drops.


We brought 5 modified fully instrumented test F-16 aircraft (F-16CM) loaded in varying combat configurations and flew daily operations providing air interdiction and then A/G support with live weapon drops. The operations tempo was challenging with organizations from all over the US and Harriers from Great Britain flying over 100 missions a day. Night flying was fantastic - unfortunately I did not have a chance to grab any camera shots. (The B-1B puts out an impressive rooster tail at night in a full afterburner take-off.)

These are two of our aircraft at Red Flag:

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90-835 is a two-seater also known as a bus or station wagon. She’s shown here flying toward LV with Sunrise Mountain in the background. She’s armed with 2 AIM-120s, 2 GBU-10 LGBs, 1 AIM-9M, and a telemetry shape on Station-8 for range tracking. She also carries an HTS (Harm Targeting System) Pod and a LANTIRN targeting pod on the inlet stations. The orange panels are instrumentation access panels and antennas.

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91-0383 is configured similarly but in place of the LGBs, she’s sporting a pair of AGM-88 High Speed Anti-radiation Missiles, and a centerline ECM Pod.




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I liked Jim’s shot of 835 here - the back-seater looks happy to be airborne. :D


Richard and Kristopher Trajano run a web site called Nellis Spotters where they post pictures, videos, and information on Red Flag. Kristopher caught this shot of a B-2 with Vegas in the background:

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(Kris is only 13 years old but he already has a good eye for aircraft photography. :thumbup:)


Had a good time. Just thought I'd share......


j
 
Wow, civilians get to play with all that cool equipment? That must've been a riot! I love that first photo of the F-16.
 
Took part in one of those about 3 years ago... except our job was to detect air track and relay them to shooters. I'll light up those F-16s for you... :) I got to be there for a Pac-III live fire out at White Sands while I was there. Pretty cool stuff...
 
Just returned from Nellis AFB where our organization participated in Red Flag 09-02. We are the first squadron of Air Force civilians to deploy and participate in a combat training exercise under HPO guidelines. We raised a lot of eyebrows among the military regulars at first but we proved we could hold our own.

For those unfamiliar with Red Flag, there is a hulu broadcast at Fighter Pilot - Operation Red Flag. It was produced as an I-Max feature and runs about 48 minutes but it’s worth watching for the insight, the flying videos, and weapons drops.


We brought 5 modified fully instrumented test F-16 aircraft (F-16CM) loaded in varying combat configurations and flew daily operations providing air interdiction and then A/G support with live weapon drops. The operations tempo was challenging with organizations from all over the US and Harriers from Great Britain flying over 100 missions a day. Night flying was fantastic - unfortunately I did not have a chance to grab any camera shots. (The B-1B puts out an impressive rooster tail at night in a full afterburner take-off.)

These are two of our aircraft at Red Flag:

835_1.jpg

90-835 is a two-seater also known as a bus or station wagon. She’s shown here flying toward LV with Sunrise Mountain in the background. She’s armed with 2 AIM-120s, 2 GBU-10 LGBs, 1 AIM-9M, and a telemetry shape on Station-8 for range tracking. She also carries an HTS (Harm Targeting System) Pod and a LANTIRN targeting pod on the inlet stations. The orange panels are instrumentation access panels and antennas.

383_4.jpg


91-0383 is configured similarly but in place of the LGBs, she’s sporting a pair of AGM-88 High Speed Anti-radiation Missiles, and a centerline ECM Pod.




90-835.jpg

I liked Jim’s shot of 835 here - the back-seater looks happy to be airborne. :D


Richard and Kristopher Trajano run a web site called Nellis Spotters where they post pictures, videos, and information on Red Flag. Kristopher caught this shot of a B-2 with Vegas in the background:

3230010135_4107b86a41_b.jpg


(Kris is only 13 years old but he already has a good eye for aircraft photography. :thumbup:)


Had a good time. Just thought I'd share......


j

GREAT Hulu video! Only way to make it better would have been more A-10 footage!:D

Thanks for the great post!
 
Awsome pics thanks for sharing them....:thumbup:

What knife do you carry in the cockpit?
 
Man that looks like a heck of a time. Might not necessarily be fun during but afterwards once the stress has faded it would be something to look back on for sure. Kinda makes me want to be a pilot.
 
Wow, I didn't know the newest F-16's could mount AIM-120 AMRAAM's on the wingtips. But wouldn't that affect the roll rate and hence maneuvering in a dogfight?
 
Ah yes, those were the days - Red Flag, Air Warrior. Heck, sometimes we'd be stuck at Nellis for a month or two while they repaved our runway. Sooo much fun! Don't have too many memories of the airplanes for some funny reason. Truth is, I don't remeber much at all - except I had fun! Good days, Good times, Good people. I do remember the F-15 & F-16 guys being pissed at our A-10's 'cuz we waxed 'em in Guns only Dogfights.

Gibby
 
wintermute said:
Wow, civilians get to play with all that cool equipment? That must've been a riot! I love that first photo of the F-16.

We even have a civilian test pilot - one of the best - that flys with us for Lockheed-Martin. We follow most of the same rules and regs the active AF does relating to aircraft maintenance and operations in support of our USAF pilots. At Edwards, we flight test the lastest weapons and equipment upgrades to ensure the active force has the best equipment possible. Red Flag was a great proving ground for us.


Wow, I didn't know the newest F-16's could mount AIM-120 AMRAAM's on the wingtips. But wouldn't that affect the roll rate and hence maneuvering in a dogfight?


Standard air interdiction configuration is 120s on Stns 1 & 9. In defensive counter air, they will double up with AMRAAMs on Stns 2 & 8 and AIM-9s on 3 & 7 as well. She's still a 9g airframe and roll rate is quick even at high g-loads.


Arthur Washburn said:
Hey John,

Hope they all learned something useful

Art

Hey Art!!

You guys done well. We took home some good lessons, (Finished downloading the mission tapes from the ASQ-213s recently) showed folks a thing or two, and are eager to apply the "lessons". Thanks for the support!! :thumbup:



gibbyx said:
Ah yes, those were the days - Red Flag, Air Warrior. Heck, sometimes we'd be stuck at Nellis for a month or two while they repaved our runway. Sooo much fun! Don't have too many memories of the airplanes for some funny reason. Truth is, I don't remeber much at all - except I had fun! Good days, Good times, Good people. I do remember the F-15 & F-16 guys being pissed at our A-10's 'cuz we waxed 'em in Guns only Dogfights.

Gibby


Good times indeed! No such thing as being "stuck" at Nellis. :cool:

Warthogs take CAS/BAI any day and are punishing in in slow furballs. Not what Eagles and Falcons are designed for. Neither carry a large amount of 20 mm either. High speed entanglements are another story. Radar and missiles from close in to beyond visual range and you're simply a target. Still a great chance to learn when you're flying out of your comfort zone. :thumbup:



:D
j
 
That's true Java, no such think as really being stuck there. Good times brother, good times!

Gibby
 
So Java I might have missed this, but do you fly or are you ground crew?
 
So Java I might have missed this, but do you fly or are you ground crew?

I think he wears a pocket protector and protractor...:D

I haven't flown since leaving active duty (usually as a safety chase observer in AF F-15Ds and Navy T-2s). Zen has me pegged for my role in flight testing now (avionics development and integration fight testing). Monday I begin a new job at NASA as the ESD Program Manager for the Dryden Flight Test Center. This adds the horn-rimmed coke-bottle glasses and Bill Nye hair to Zen's description but I'm secretly hoping to score a 250KV or greater Van de Graff generator and some Tesla coils for demo and teaching aides before moving to the chest-high Dockers with multi-colored suspenders. :D



Very cool. Are those the new Block 5x f-16's?

They are Block 50/52 airframes with the ability to be reprogrammed to earlier avionics suites and operational flight programs for regression and upgrade testing. We've experimented with upgraded radars like the APG-66 V-10 but not the APG-80 Advanced Electrically Scanned Array (which as an avionics test geek I have secretly lusted after for years). For Red Flag we ran our most advanced avionics software (M5.1+) so we can complete our evaluation before release to the active Air Force. We are constantly upgrading and evaluating software and avionics hardware to provide the best package for our troops in the field.


There's more information from our base newspaper at Edwards Desert Eagle.



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j
 
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