Back with lessons learned - What worked / What didn't

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I'm back from a relatively non-descript trip down to the ole South with some personal lessons learned.

While this was by no means a survival excursion or even a camping trip, I had left with the thought of testing my real needs when "bugged out" for a bit and assessing what worked and what didn't.

I had with me several knives - a Fallkniven WM, a Camillus EDC, SAK Classic, and a SAK Soldier. Every cutting chore during this trip was achieved with the SAKs. The other knives were always available, but the SAKs were the workers. I had began to feel like the others were merely extra weight, but they (and some OC aerosol and a Cold Steel Shambok) proved very comforting when alcohol fueled racefans started road raging trying to get out of the parking lots after the Coke 600 and several verbal confrontations occurred.

I had several methods of lighting available as well. They included a Photon Green Microlight, a CMG White Infinity, a Mini Maglight Solitaire, several lightsticks, and a Traser glowring. The Photon proved invaluable, meeting all of our lighting needs while walking at night in an area well populated by copperheads and timber rattlers. The Mini-Mag worked well for me too. I removed the head of the Mini-mag to have an area light for reading during the very early morning hours while my sig other slept. I used a green 12 hr light stick taped to my truck's antenna to mark my truck in the parking lot at Lowe's Motor Speedway -making the truck very easy to find in the dark among thousands of other vehicles. The Traser glowring (from Bagheera) was worth it's weight in gold. Attached to my keyring, it made it very easy to find my keys, Photon, and SAK in total darkness. The CMG was utterly useless during this trip.
The CMG did not put out enough light to sufficiently light a path or read by and could not sufficiently light up even the area of a small motel room.

Southern heat became a problem for our thick northern climate acclimated blood, causing a number of problems requiring action. The water seemed to disagree with our systems, forcing us to break out the First Aid kit in search of Immodium - thank god we had the forsight to stock some. We used bottled water and Gatorade afterwords - hind sight being 20-20 again. Wet bandanas and a washcloth borrowed from a hotel room provided cooling comfort for my folicly challenged head. The 33SPF Dermatone sunscreen also proved worth it's weight in gold. Clear-Eyes eye drops provided relief from long hours in the sun and from track dust/debris.

Speaking of the First Aid Kit - it may have been a life saver. A friend was stung by some red ants and suffered an allergic reaction. The Sawyer Sting Relief Pads offered some comfort from the bites, but the Benedryl may have saved her life. She had to be hospitalized the reaction was so bad.

Another well used piece of equipment was my US GI canteen/cup/stove and trioxane fuel tabs. The trip totalled about 2100 miles driving, as we did some touring of Civil War battlefields on the way home. The weather was turning colder and the canteen combo provided some great coffee and soup to accompany our lunches.

Some pieces to give honorable mention to include my compass, binocs, notebook, and pen. The small Brunton compass worked great on the battlefields to orient ourselves to troop movements and positions. It also came in handy a couple times on the road when my sig other (navigator) became Dan'l Boone style bewildered in the mountains of Virginia/West Virginia/Virginia/West Virginia/Virginia/West Virginia. LOL. Of the 3 sets of small binocs I own, only my Minolta's were capable of focusing through my developing asstigmatism (it sucks to get older.) The notebook and pen provided the notes I'm transribing for you here.

Some great personal discoveries from the trip - Goody's Headache Powders and Grits. I also discovered it pays to do field assessments of your gear selection at every opportunity you can sieze.

PS - During the trip, I acquired two more SAKs - a camo Tinker ($12.50 closeout) and a locking blade Trailmaster ($20.00 closeout). Did I ever mention the fact I like SAKs?


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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.

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Glad you made it down South. As much as some of our own down here will warn you about timber rattlers and copperheads, they pretty much stay out of your way and of no real concern to us. Pabst Blue Ribbon induced race fans are much more dangerous.

We have a few red ants that can light you up, but most northerners are impressed and intrigued by our fire ants. They build large dirt mound nests. There are literally millions of these bastards that come running out when something disturbs their home. Fire ants are real small and almost black in color. They have been known to kill newborn calves that lay in their nests. Depending on what states you went to, you may not have encountered these...they are not too far north of AL/TN line.

Goody's Headache Powders are great. Grits are excellent also. We can usually spot a northerner in a restaurant...they are the one's putting sugar in their grits
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Yall come back now...ya hear!

Jeff

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Jeff,

In WWII, a US spy was captured by Germans when they noticed him eating the wrong way. Keeping that in mind, I waited 'til I saw a Southerner get his grits and put some butter & salt n pepper on 'em. I did likewise
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lol BTW, I was born in the South and seems she's calling me back. NC and VA are lookin real good.

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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
A guy from Huntsville told me to eat my grits will fried eggs.

I guess I'll have to pick up a photon to try out.
 
I feel like I went with you....grear review of what worked and what didn't. I especially liked the taping of the green light stick to mark the trucks position in a ocean of parked vehicles. I will remember to do that. Now myself, I love a good hot bowl of corn grits for breakfast with just a lot of pure creamery butter. Throw in a breakfast steak ( to be cut with my SAK Pocket Pal ), an egg or two and some gatoraid to wash it all down. Oh yeah!! I'll have to learn more about the Traser glowring. Sounded quite handy.

Did you visit any battle fields in West Virginia? I think the first battle of the civil war occured there..could be wrong. Thanks for a great trip and review.

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Man, you just took the best time for the trip or you could have practiced cold weather survival in your home state.
I am amazed how popular the old SAKs still are despite lack of blade lock and the less than top steel. It tells me that there is still a good market for inexpensive, small, thin user blades of reliable quality. Why didn’t you use Camillus EDC instead? Or the Fallkniven WM with a much better steel ?
Photons, I gotta get one too. They suppose to have some incredible battery life. How about their waterproofness?
What is Traser glowring?
For head cooling and keeping annoying insects away from hairless scalp
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, I used wetted mil issue wide brim boonie hat that worked very well against sun rays too. Sunglasses are good against eye redness too.

Thanks for the nice report, sgtmike88.

HM


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As a relative newbie to BF its really nice to see such good natured and friendly exchanges between the North and South.

I like visiting up north but would miss the food too much to live up there. The lack of biscuits and gravy sophistication. Please folks understand....white (cream) gravy with chicken, chicken fried steak or breakfast....brown gravy only with roasted meat or turkey.

I for one can't wait to get a chance to backpack up in New England. Hope I get the chance soon.
 
Roj, You're absolutely right. The southern style biscuits and sausage gravy are to die for. I couldn't get enough of the peaches, either. Ah think Ah might jest fit in, down thar with y'all. LOL - How's that Jeff?


FF, We hit Harper's Ferry, the Wilderness, Chancellorsville, Spotsylvania Court House, Fredericksburg, Antietam, and Gettysburg. Manassas and Cold Harbor will be in August.
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Sorry about the redneck race-fans (it was probably me and my brothers, haha).
BTW, nobody I know "down here" drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon. The red-neck drinks of choice are Bud Lite and Miller Lite (or Milwaukee's Beast...I mean Best, for hardcore hicks).

If you want to eat a REAL "poor-boy" Southern style breakfast try GRITS-N-CATFISH.

Why can't the north make sweet-tea?

Come'on back down, we'll leave the light on for you.
Allen.
 
Allen, you must be young. PBR was the redneck brew of choice for many years. This newer generation has gotten too civilized and now drinking Bud Light and Miller Light....what the hell is the south coming to
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Next thing you know they will be drinking herbal teas and actually speaking clearly.If my neighbors down here ever start believing that professional wrestling is fake then I'm moving.

Jeff

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That's the worst part about being a former southerner that lives up north. no one knows how to cook up here ;) They have biscuits and gravy. . . Mushroom gravy ;)

Then they got me to try this thing called lutefisk. I swear I am not making this up, but they get this fish and soak it in lye for a month. Then they dry it out, rehydrate it, and serve it swimming in butter. It's something like eating a buttered sweat sock formerly belonging to Dennis Rodman. They call this good eatin' up here ;)

Sometime maybe I'll tell y'all about hotdish and bars ;)

 
heh heh...
yeah,isnt it great down here?
gets hotter than hell,mosquitoes by the millions.snakes,bugs,all the good things in life.

i went to boston last summer,and was surprised at how different the north and south really is.
what are grits? people asked
what is fluff? i replied.

glad you made it out alive,ya yank
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Jeff, you're right. They're too young to remember the "Red neck, white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer" years....

Maybe youth is a good thing....




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The wise man said, "It can't be done." The fool came in and did it.

Muddy water is best cleared by leaving it alone.

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Ah...the good ole days of being a redneck...but....there have been amazing advances in the field plastic mesh hats with offensive, sexist, racist, and very non-PC logos and slogans.

Todays redneck is better equipped than ever. What did we put on our truck windows in the south before some enterprising classy individual developed the "peeing Calvin" decal.

We had to be satisfied with your choice of naked woman sillouette or Yosemine Sam "Back Off" mud flaps for decoration.

Tacky as hell but still....many of the finest people I know are redneck to the core...God love 'em.

Just out of curiosity....How does the well kitted out "redneck equivalent" of the North distinguish him/herself?
 
Roj,

We typically have an ol' 4x4 pickup with a gunrack in the back winder, which holds our .30-30 or .32 Win. spl. rifle. We keep the studded snow tires year round, cause we like the noise it makes on dry pavement. Bondo and mismatched body parts prevail due to corrosion from the winter salted roads.

Up here, Calvin pees on the #24. (The #3 is sacred here, too.) The only other stickers on our trucks usually say either "As*, gas, or grass - nobody rides for free", "You can take my gun from my cold, dead fingers", "Nascar", or something contrary about Hill and Billary Clinton.

Other than that and the cherry popper muffler, jackin' lights, and dried whitetail blood - you'd be hard pressed to recognize a northern redneck.
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It's not the pace of life that concerns me, It's the sudden stop at the end.
 
Having lived over five years in Kentucky and Virginia (Army assignments) I learned the plural of "y'all" is "all y'all".

Don't let those grits dry on the plate or you just may have to throw the plate away!

There's no such thing as "barbecue", each region has it's own type -- pork in Virginia, chicken in NC, beef in Texas, etc.

No matter how you prepare country ham, it's always salty. ...and should be sliced "thin". Thin means if an inner tube were made out of it, it wouldn't hold air. It means you should be able to read a newspaper through it! I once saw a friend from Virginia Beach almost flatten a guest who he allowed to cut the ham -- quarter inch thick slices -- on New Years Day (don't forget the black eyed peas!)

Bruce
 
I grew up in Virginia, and my swill of choice is still Pabst. I now live in rural Maine, and PBR is still real popular up here. I was recently in Arkansas, and couldn't fin a six pack of Pabst anywhere. So much for tradition.
 
How about a Western perspective on the redneck thing? Out here in Oregon (pronounced OR-ee-gun) we couldn't care less who won the war, but you'll often see the rebel flag on a jacked-up pickup with more primer than paint. Calvin pees on everything from ex-girlfriends to Fords, Chevys, GMCs, you name it. The gun rack holds either the biggest guns you got or your fishing poles - or both. Mud is appropriately splattered all over your truck to show that it's a real work horse. And speaking of horses, your boots better not be too shiny.

By the way, there's a restaurant out here that makes some killer hashbrowns with sausage gravy. None of this milky, drippy stuff. We're talking BIG chunks of sausage holding the sauce together. In my town the food of choice is Mexican, and everybody tries to show their manliness by choking down the hot peppers and drinking habanero sauce. I don't think that anybody's that concerned about imitating Southern or Northern food. We just want salsa and tortillas with a good serving of carne asada. Oh, and don't forget the fresh cilantro and the flame-roasted onions, peppers and tomatoes.
 
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