Backpacking Trip Invite for 2012

lambertiana

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After not being able to do any long backpacking trips this year because of work issues (no vacation time with the new job) I am planning a trip for next summer. Right now it looks like the group will be four or five, so a couple more would not be a problem.

First, the route. We will probably follow the route detailed in this trip report, doing it in nine days:

http://www.markscheeff.com/etc/travels/backpacking_2005/

Total mileage will probably be around 70, with significant portions off trail. Final date has not been fixed yet, but will be some time from late July to late August.

There are two places on that route that could be tricky. The first will be the crossing of the Kern-Kaweah River. This will depend entirely on the snow pack and melt rate in the spring. If it is a normal year, it should not be a significant problem. If it is like this year, with a heavy snow pack and late melt, it could get interesting. The second place will be Pyra-Queen Col. Look at the pictures in the above link, if you are not comfortable doing steep loose class 2 like that with a full pack (at elevation, it is 12,800'), then this is not the trip for you.

Now for some conditions. I plan all year (in this case two years) for these trips, and they mean a lot to me and my sanity. I don't have much tolerance for people who say they can do it, and then figure out two days into the trip that they just can't take it. If you find yourself in that situation, you will be responsible for your own self-evacuation over the easiest route. That may sound harsh, but I have been on trips when someone bailed out, and it was not pleasant. I don't want a weekend warrior to ruin what I have been planning and looking forward to for so long. It is not an overly hard trip, averaging less than 10 miles per day, but off trail is slower, and it is all at elevation. If you have experience doing long backpacking trips at elevation (and I will ask for details) and are in good physical condition then it shouldn't be a problem. Anyone with little or no experience who wants to try it out would probably be asked to go on a shakedown overnight trip beforehand for a personal evaluation. And note that the above condition does not apply if there is an injury. I will do everything in my power to take care of people in case of injury. But if you just decide that the trip is too hard to continue, I don't have a lot of sympathy.

So, anyone interested? This trip promises spectacular scenery, and a fair amount of solitude, since we will spend the majority of the time away from the popular trails.
 
That looks like a really incredible route. Were it closer, and were a friend and I not planning to do Montana next summer, I'd throw my name in the hat for that trip for sure. May still be a possibility, but we will have to see. Bump the thread about June or July next year :D

Off trail is where it's at!
 
Any possisbility of you discusssing your gear for a trip like that? Would love to be able to do that some day.
DOc
 
I don't have experience doing long backpacking trips at elevation, but I am definitely interested. I would like to be better conditioned for a trip like this though, so I'll hold off until we get closer (if spots are still available). If I feel like I'm fit enough, I'll contact you for a trial overnighter. What's the deadline for commitment?
 
Damn John that looks like an awsome trip.. Something i more then would love to do. I wont know if i could make it or not till much closer to that date. Damn work I need to win the lotto or find some foolish rich woman to marry me so could ruin her life. Please do keep a date posted and any more info about the trip. As for if i can make it or not.. First the bad stuff i do have a bad knee that sometimes might act up and i have low capacity lungs. So sometimes i need to stop for 5 min or so to get oxagen into the body. I did go from horse shoe meadow to the rocky basin lakes in less then one day with plenty of time to spare to set up camp and do some hiking around the lakes. It also happened that my knee acted up and i had to set up camp early. I always go backpacking alone for that reason just in case so i dont have anyone wait for me... Like you i cant stand whiners that complain about everything. Just putting everything on the table..

Sasha
 
Any possisbility of you discusssing your gear for a trip like that? Would love to be able to do that some day.
DOc

Doc - My current go-to gear list for such trips is:

Pack - Osprey Atmos 65
Tent - Marmot EOS 1P
Bag - Western Mountaineering Summerlite
Pad - Pacific Outdoors Insulmat
Stove - Snow Peak Giga (for solo use) or MSR Windpro (for groups)
Pot - smaller pot from Brunton IB set (for solo), Jetboil GCS (for groups)
Boots - Merrell Phaser Peak
Bear Canister - Bearikade
Plus other essentials - first aid kit, basic repair supplies, toiletries, etc. For knives I carry a combo of fixed blade (usually a custom from Ray Laconico), Leatherman Squirt, SAK Classic, Vic Farmer, Queen Stockman, and either Spyderco UKPK or Buck Mayo.

Yes, I know it cost a lot, but I didn't get it all in one year. That is close to ten year's worth of accumulation, buying one major gear item each year. I used to use a camelback bladder, but now I just reuse the 12oz and 16oz water bottles from store-bought water. I never buy those bottles of water, but invariably over any given year people give me several of them and I save them. They are light and tough. I used to filter (with a Katadyn Hiker) but that is not necessary in the Sierra high country where I go, and I haven't carried a filter for a few years now.
 
Bump - I received my permit today. Entering at Crescent Meadow (High Sierra Trail) July 20, exiting at the same point July 28. I will probably have a spot or two available.
 
Seems like an awesome trip!! I would qualify for the physical conditions, but unfortunately I can't physically be present... wish you all the best for it!
 
Got a new job now, so I will probably not be doing any backpacking at all this summer. Hope you have a good time.
 
Should be a low snow pack this year unless we get a record setting spring snow fall.

Yeah, that's what I think. It's been warmish this year.

Is this the Sierra High Route? That's my pre-google guess.

Definately not a trip to bring excess weight on. If you can walk 10 mi/day at 10k', day after day, you can go most places in the Sierras. Not all, but most.
 
Bump - I received my permit today. Entering at Crescent Meadow (High Sierra Trail) July 20, exiting at the same point July 28. I will probably have a spot or two available.


OK, that's about what I thought. You realize the mosquitos will be out and pizzed? In the Cottonwood Lakes Basin, they tried to pick me up and carry me off.
 
OK, that's about what I thought. You realize the mosquitos will be out and pizzed? In the Cottonwood Lakes Basin, they tried to pick me up and carry me off.

Unless we get a tremendous snowfall over the next month or so, conditions in late July this year will be like late August/September in a normal year. Mosquitoes will not be a big problem.
 
Is this the Sierra High Route? That's my pre-google guess.

No, the Sierra High Route is north of there. I did a small section of it as part of my 2010 trip, the part from Horseshoe Lakes to Lake Basin in this trip report (and this trip report could be used as a gauge of what this year's trip will be like):

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/767031-7-Days-in-Kings-Canyon-Dialup-Beware!!!

The High Sierra Trail starts at Crescent Meadow and goes to Mt Whitney, the trip I will be doing this year will cover the western end of it (from Nine Lakes Basin to Crescent Meadow).
 
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