BAD, Badger, skinny ASH-1, SAR5, Cultellus or not a Busse?

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hello!
i am new to busse combat knives but the design is just striking - so i need to have one. but i can not decide which one.
hopefully someone can help me.
generaly i am looking for a ever-day-user as i do not like buying expensive knives and not using them. it is not primary the look but the performance what makes me buying them.
all clear so far but now here comes the problem: i do outdoor stuff thus i need a knife for general outdoor purposes like bushcraft and hiking but the most time i use/carry a knive is not outdoors but on academic work/normal city life and at home that makes me using a knife mostly for food preperation or similar every-day tasks. no way - i would like to start a fire, building shelter, making triggers for traps and similar as every-day tasks but unfortunally my life is different :rolleyes: and such things could only be done in time off.
thus i need to conceal my knives so i have to carry them mostly in a shoulder holster or IWB that includes larger knives too as i a am a tall man. if the knive is deep enough IWB that the handle does not push into my stomach it is realy comfortable - only pulling the knife out makes people look :D.
to make things short (i hope the introduction is not that confusing) - i am looking "kinda" for kitchen performance that means cutting f.e. buttering bread, cutting hard sausage (i do not know if you in the US now that?) bread, bacon, even pizza :), esp. buttering bread and stuff like that. than typical every-day tasks opening packages, cutting wire and so on. but then there is bushcraft/hiking part too. which of the bigger ones would be good for some finer work too like carving triggers for traps or whittling
i hope i do not bore you because this is not the end :).
i what to improve performance of the knives. i do not need a edge which a big angle so i want to convex the secondary bevel all the way through to have a zero edge grind (i hope i expressed well on this point because my knife english is not that well).
which one would take that zero edge grind at best?
and which has a primary bevel on the complete height of the blade?
which one would after being improved cut in terms of the tasks described above at the best? i mean size (and weight) matters for cutting pizza or bread which one would you recommend? that the BAD is the best slicer should be clear.
i mean to be realistic - i think i end up buying two a larger and a smaller one. but first it is a question of which one i buy at first :D and second i mostly will only carry one knife so the smaller should be able to do still a litte bushcraft and the bigger should be a good slicer too.
thank you for reading that far. know my question: which one shall i get? or should a take a bark river as all of them have a zero edge?
how does a busse perform compared to a bark river
i hope someone can help me

here are some questions the the models:
general:
-what is the height of the blades? i only know that the skinny ASH-1 is about 2" high which would make a great cutter if the primary bevel starts right at the top
-where does the primary bevel start (top of the blade, 3/4, middle?)
-which has a convex grind?
-has one a zero edge (convexed all the way through)?
-will there be other knives at 60-62 RC i am thinking for a Cultellus ?

Bagers: which one? i thought of the SHBA but how thick is the blade?
SAR5: how heavy is it?
SAR: will there be a SAR4 or SAR4.5?
ASH-1 can this knife butter a bread? the spearpoint looks awesome! but is it usefull on a blade 2" high?
Cultellus: what about this one? i forget to mention it

thanks four your patience
 
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That is a Cultie:thumbup::thumbup:
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that's a lot of questions. here are some answers to ones i can answer:

sounds like a SAR5 would be your best bet. the skinny ash might be a little too big. it's a great hiking/camp knife, but unless you're going to need to do some chopping the SAR5 sounds like a better fit. i've never tried, but i imagine the skinny ASH could butter bread just fine . . . .

both the skinny ASH and SAR5 are convex ground, but neither have a zero edge. you should be able to do it yourself without too much trouble. don't know about the SAR5, but the skinny ASH comes with a relatively thin edge (for a Busse anyway)

i think the SAR5 is full height convex, but i'm not sure. the skinny ASH is a saber convex (the grind starts about 1/2" to 3/4" down).

the SAR5 would also be much easier to carry and conceal.

a badger might also work fine. the TAC version would be the easiest to find right now (good luck finding a straight handle unless you want to pay a lot). CG (3/16" thick, saber grind), LE (.27" thick, full flat grind)
 
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here is my favorite for the all the small duties listed

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the cultie is hard to beat for whittling ,sandwich making, FOGO's:)

All intricate work

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nospam said:
hello!
Badgers:?
SAR5: how heavy is it?
SAR: will there be a SAR4 or SAR4.5?
ASH-1 can this knife butter a bread? the spearpoint looks awesome! but is it useful on a blade 2" high?
Cultellus: what about this one? i forget to mention it
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hi and welcome, sounds like you should go to blade west if you live close enough.

and knife hunter, who taught you how to whittle and where's that mammoth cultie? :grumpy:


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idahoskunk said:
and knife hunter, who taught you how to whittle and where's that mammoth cultie? :grumpy:


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Skunk SIr,

just one them things you learn as an only child on the farm. SHould of seen my dads arm chair after I finished:eek:

and my rear end:D COme to think of it. I never did find that Buck knife arfterwards:(


No worries that particular cultie has your name it-when your ready;):D


also anyone with questions on out of the box sharp Busse's need only look above. THe results of my linen tiger cultie on a hard piece of pine fat lighter that was previously used at FOGOS earlier this year. and its ready for more
 
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idahoskunk said:
just have your better half bring it with her when she comes out to blade west, i'll handle everything from there :thumbup:

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I showed here clips of your "BONING" technique:eek:

and she's eager to learn more:D;)


but that will definitely up your anty
 
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My suggestion would be to get two knives. I would definitely tell you to get a a Busse for your big chopper. The skinny ash is really good. I personally prefer the LE (but convexed) but that is a matter of personal preference. Since you say that you are in to bushcraft, then based on my experience the sar5 is quite a big knife. So, for a second knife I would suggest a BAD or perhaps a cultellus. Nonetheless there is an issue here. The BAD is an excellent knife, but is much thinner than its Busse brethren. This would meen that if you would happen to abuse it then there is a small possibility to break it. Of course you would be covered by Busse and they would replace it right away. Only one catch there. If you live outside the US, how much will it cost to ship it and what about the taxes??? I think it would roughly cost a little bit more that half of the knife's price. In that case you can go for a cheaper knife (I don't like bark river, their edges are to thin for me, would suggest a Fallkniven F1).
 
Skinny - for cutting baguette and BAD - for cutting sausage....:D
(but be warned. there is no like "buying just one Busse"...)
 
thank you for your posts and pics!
the SAR5 seems to fit just right. but what knife is the better cutter (has the thinner edge? - i like thin barkriver edges) skinny ASH-1 or SAR5? because the ASH-1 has a saber grind starting in the middle (or 3/4) of the height of the blade it seems for me that the not grinded part of the blade is just weight. which is a litte useless for me because a chopper is always good but a for EDC a cutter is better.
has someone maybe a picture of a SAR5 and a skinny ASH-1 or a fallkniven f1/S1/A1 or a bark river.
unfortunaly i can not go to blade west as i am really to far distant from there.

badger seems to be out of the game because of the price
 
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