Baldor Motor?

DeadboxHero

DeadboxHero

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I'm looking at the pheer 454 1.5hp variable drive.

There is an option to upgrade the motor to a baldor Motor for an additional $250

Is there any advantages I'm not seeing?

Longevity? Performance?
 
There are a few advantages, but without a side by side set of stats, it is hard to say here.

Baldor may have a warranty, and they are very well built for long life and hard use. The Baldor may have a higher duty rating, too.

That said, you can buy a lot of stuff with $250. Heck,you may be able to find the Baldor motor somewhere for cheap and use the one with the grinder to build a disc grinder.
 
DeadboxHero said:
I'm looking at the pheer 454 1.5hp variable drive.

There is an option to upgrade the motor to a baldor Motor for an additional $250

Is there any advantages I'm not seeing?

Longevity? Performance?
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For what your paying for the sander another $250 would be like an insurance policy. I'm an electrician and I have been installing Baldor motors on steam return pumps for many years. condensate pumps run 24/7 and run under the worst possible conditions like Extreme heat, moister, dust, and vibration that comes from steam hammer. It is probably one of the easiest motors to replace due to it's popularity and they are made well and I believe they are made in the U.S. of A. but don't quote me on that. That's my honest opinion as an electrician of 30 years. I Hope that is of some help to you sir
 
Night Rider said:
It is probably one of the easiest motors to replace due to it's popularity
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Since motors are all made to a spec to be the same per mounting and wiring, it really doesn't matter what manuf/brand a motor is as long as it's the same mounting spec such as 56C or base mount. This makes all shop type motor installations the same for replacement. Doesn't matter if same manuf or not as long as it's the same general hp and mounting spec.
 
I understand what you are saying, Ken, but the difference can be far more than the frame size and faceplate. The windings, insulation, bearings, fan type, etc. all add up to what makes some motors better than others. Baldor is an industry standard and one can be found easily almost anywhere.

To illustrate my point, a cheap Chinese 56C with open frame and low power rating will fit the same mounting bolts that a TEFC Baldor will ... they may fit the same, but the lifespan and power will not be the same.
 
He's only addressing that Baldors are somehow "easier to replace due to [sic]it's popularity." Not that being made to certain frame specifications makes them the same quality.
 
I took the " one of the easiest motors to replace due to it's popularity" comment as meaning it is easy to replace a Baldor motor ( with another Baldor motor) because the are so popular ... and can be found pretty much everywhere.
 
Kuraki is correct.

When I was in industry I never spec'd a cheap Chinese motor, always Baldor, Alliance, or some industrial rated brand. These were motors that are going to run 24/7 and any failure is going to cost BIG BUCKS! For the number of hours the typical 2X72 (or disk) grinder runs per week it's going to take a VERY long time to add up the total run hours that's going to cause a runtime failure with a cheap Chinese motor.
 
Ken H> said:
Kuraki is correct.

When I was in industry I never spec'd a cheap Chinese motor, always Baldor, Alliance, or some industrial rated brand. These were motors that are going to run 24/7 and any failure is going to cost BIG BUCKS! For the number of hours the typical 2X72 (or disk) grinder runs per week it's going to take a VERY long time to add up the total run hours that's going to cause a runtime failure with a cheap Chinese motor.
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Agreed. It'll likely take decades to see a return on that extra $250 (which, FYI, is still about $50 more than a brand new IronHorse), especially for hobby makers who may run a machine for less than 8 to 12 hours per week with relatively light loads.

That said, you can often find Baldor and other industrial grade motors at surplus and other motor resale shops, craigslist, or even eBay, for anywhere from $50 to $200, and anywhere from brand new, to looks like it fell off a truck but still works. Just gotta keep an eye open.
 
Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith said:
I understand what you are saying, Ken, but the difference can be far more than the frame size and faceplate. The windings, insulation, bearings, fan type, etc. all add up to what makes some motors better than others. Baldor is an industry standard and one can be found easily almost anywhere.

To illustrate my point, a cheap Chinese 56C with open frame and low power rating will fit the same mounting bolts that a TEFC Baldor will ... they may fit the same, but the lifespan and power will not be the same.
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Exactly^
 
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