Ballistol and Ugly, Dirty, Glue!!!!

[Yvsa]

Wanted to say Nasty glue but didn't want Nasty to take offence.

My Barbie needed a knife to cut up a huge cardboard box with so I loaned her my little Camillus 154CM Cuda as it's a nice thin blade that holds an extremely good edge!!!! She brought it in all covered with a thick nasty glue that although dry to touch was still thick and somewhat sticky.

What to do? My first thought was get the acetone and simply wipe it off which would've worked but I was lazy and didn't want to do anything right then.
I wiped one side of it down with the cloth I have that has the oily residue of Ballistol still in it. I didn't refresh it, just used it as is....
The next day I checked it out and the glue was all soft, I used a Klenex and simply wiped it off!!!!
Then I used the rag and wiped the other side down, next day did the same thing all over again, no more glue residue!!!!

I'm thinking it may also work on sap but don't know. It would be really interesting to try it on pine sap but it's a drive to find any pines locally. And I don't know how it would do fresh but this shows the residue left in a cloth works really well.

Someone with Ballistol and access to pine sap wanna check it out?
Use it freshly applied as well as with a cloth that has been soaked and left to set a week or so? it would be an interesting test methinks.
Sap in general and Pine Sap in particular are both hard to remove items ainnit?

 

[Nasty]

damned ten characters

 

[Daniel Koster]

I used to have the darndest time trying to remove sap. Now, I just pass it over the buffer - takes 10 seconds.

 

[Daniel Koster]

But that's very interesting about Ballistol....must have a solvent in there...

 

[Josh Muller]

it has several alcohols.

i posted a while back about usieng it on a walking stick thats slowly, verry slowly getting shave down to bare wood (about 7 months now), and coming back with 4 blades covered in sap. i scrubbed the blades with gojo to see if it would help (it didnt). at that point i normally would have just used lighter fluid to remove it, but didnt really want to hit the leather with it, so i used ballistol.

while not quite as quick as lighter fluid, or as effective the first time around, it does roughly the same job. i had to go 2 passes (cover blade with it, rub it in with cloth thoroughly, and then wipe off, repeat with new cloth/other side of cloth) with it before i was satisfied that it was all off.

sadly, the ballistol did not do as good of a job getting the sap out of my hands i was sticking to things for a good 6 hours....

 

[Josh Muller]

lol... and an acetate

purified liquid paraffin (medicinal grade paraffin (pure))
potassium oleate
ammonium oleate
oleic acid
benzyl alcohol
amyl alcohol
isobutyl alcohol
bentyl acetate
anethole
isohexane (aerosol only)

 

[Yvsa]

it has several alcohols.

After setting in the open on a cloth for as long as this Ballistol has I don't see how it could have anything to do with any alcohols being the solvent, but it must have some kind of solvent to soften and neutralize the glue like it did or does it?
But I'm thinking that the oils left in the cloth is what did the trick instead of an actual solvent such as an evaporative substance.
Doesn't oils have the same affect on glues and saps over a period of time, even if it's only overnight?

 

[firkin]

After setting in the open on a cloth for as long as this Ballistol has I don't see how it could have anything to do with any alcohols being the solvent, but it must have some kind of solvent to soften and neutralize the glue like it did or does it?
But I'm thinking that the oils left in the cloth is what did the trick instead of an actual solvent such as an evaporative substance.

Well, the alcohols in Seth's post have boiling points of around 90-115 deg C, so they would slowly evaporate. As would the benzyl acetate. But alcohols aren't necessarily low-boiling liquids, it's just we are most familiar with the lower boiling (smaller) ones. Cholesterol is an alcohol and it melts at 150 deg C.

Anethole would be a good solvent, and would in most cases behave similarly to toluene, probably capable of dissolving more things, since it also has a methoxy group and thus will also have some properties similar to ether. It boils at 232 deg C, so I would expect it to hang around. Should smell too, like anise or liquorice (this substance is found in anise seeds).

Potassium and ammonium oleate are basically soaps, but in the absence of water, that probably isn't much of a factor.

Quite an interesting concoction, but without the amounts, it's hard to say much, except that undoubtably the liquid parrafin is the major constituent.

Doesn't oils have the same affect on glues and saps over a period of time, even if it's only overnight?

Liquid parafin is a long chain, high-boiling hydrocarbon. Gasoline is a short-chain, low-boing hydrocarbon. They both will dissolve the same sort of stuff.

Anything that something else dissolves in is a solvent. Typically, solvents with low-boiling points are more convenient, but sometimes the desired properties are only found in something with a high boiling point. DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) is employed as a solvent (for some chemical reactions and industrial processes "dipolar aprotic solvents" of this type are essential) and it boils at 189 deg C.

 

[Svashtar]

And yet another use for Ballistol! Soon we will find that it's the perfect sandwich spread on top of everything else! Seriously, I just started using it and its good stuff.

For tree sap or anything like that I swear by this Goo Gone concentrated citrus liquid. It's all natural and cleans like hell. I haven't really found anything so far it won't clean off. Sap takes just a few seconds to dissolve.

FYI, after I let my wife keep my special Spyderco police model in titanium with ATS-34 steel and it came back filthy and coated with crud, I only load her cheap folders now. She can't appreciate the difference, and a $20 superknife with utility blade will work just fine for her.

Regards,

-Norm

 

[firkin]

I've been waiting for Yvsa to recommend it for frying eggs.

 

[ddean]

getting the sap out of my hands i was sticking to things for a good 6 hours....

I keep baby powder (talc) around to deal with that sort.
coatys the sticky & sticky no more.
Almost any dust or dirst or powder will work.
But I like talc best.

 

[Yvsa]

I've been waiting for Yvsa to recommend it for frying eggs.

Too thin outta the can to fry eggs with, but I think it may be better than salt for preserving ham & bacon.

 

[donutsrule]

Too thin outta the can to fry eggs with, but I think it may be better than salt for preserving ham & bacon.

And now we know the real origination of "Green Eggs & Ham"