Bark River Edges - Way too obtuse

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laswyguy

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I just received a BRKT Bushcrafter 2. Fit and finish was excellent and came sharp.
However, the edge angle as I measured it on a sharpee with my angle cube noted 27% per side.
That is way too obtuse. I will use it until it dulls as is, but not sure what's the best approach to thin it out moving forward. I'd like to end up at 20 per side, 22 max. Any thoughts?
 
The good part is it came fully zero ground. I see no microbevel and would like to keep it that way.
 
I had to reprofile my Bushcrafter before I could be happy with it.

But now it is one of my favourite fixed blades.

IMO BRKT's 3V is very good.
 
Bark River uses a convex edge, which I would guess varies a lot from knife to knife.

It would be really difficult to measure the convex edge with an Angle Cube because the acuteness of the edge varies a lot from apex to shoulder. Convex edges are curves, not angles, so you're really just approximating. It's difficult to tell what the real acuity is.

But 20 degrees per side sounds good as a goal for a V edge.
 
L laswyguy ,

It’s a bit of an unfair generalization to characterize all Bark River edges as too obtuse. Some models are designed that way and others come thin & slicey. The key is picking a model and steel thickness / grind type that suits your uses.

The Bushcrafter II comes standard with a scandi-vex grind on .165” 3V. That is a strong hard use combo rather than an inherently slicey design. Contrast that with their Kephart in .093” 3V with a full height convex grind. The Kephart is just about the sliciest knife in my collection and holds its edge better than anything short of my Carothers 3V.





I have four Bark Rivers left in my collection and they are all .093" thick steel with a full height grind because I like slicey knives. The good news for you is that Bark River has a very generous Spa service you can take advantage of to request that your knife be reworked to a full height convex grind with a thinner edge profile if that is your preference. The 3V will be plenty strong even at a thinner grind.

The Bushcrafter II looks like a very nice knife. You might as well have Bark River modify it to your liking so that you enjoy using it rather than stuffing it away in a drawer or selling it for a loss.

Phil
 
Twindog said:
Bark River uses a convex edge, which I would guess varies a lot from knife to knife.

It would be really difficult to measure the convex edge with an Angle Cube because the acuteness of the edge varies a lot from apex to shoulder. Convex edges are curves, not angles, so you're really just approximating. It's difficult to tell what the real acuity is.

But 20 degrees per side sounds good as a goal for a V edge.
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You are very correct.. because there the scandivex grind has a curve. The only way I knew how to test it was to lay down the edge until it would bite into the sharpe.
I then did my best to with my angle cube lying on top of the outer edge of the bevel.

As reference my bravo 1 LT primary bevel angle was 11 degrees per side and did come with a micro bevel which I stropped and rounded out.
Its easy to go from thin to thick,but not soo much the other way around. I'm not skilled enough to do what Virtuvoice does by freehand on a stone.
The tools I own are a sharpmaker and edgepro.
 
Comprehensivist said:
L laswyguy ,

It’s a bit of an unfair generalization to characterize all Bark River edges as too obtuse. Some models are designed that way and others come thin & slicey. The key is picking a model and steel thickness / grind type that suits your uses.

The Bushcrafter II comes standard with a scandi-vex grind on .165” 3V. That is a strong hard use combo rather than an inherently slicey design. Contrast that with their Kephart in .093” 3V with a full height convex grind. The Kephart is just about the sliciest knife in my collection and holds its edge better than anything short of my Carothers 3V.





I have four Bark Rivers left in my collection and they are all .093" thick steel with a full height grind because I like slicey knives. The good news for you is that Bark River has a very generous Spa service you can take advantage of to request that your knife be reworked to a full height convex grind with a thinner edge profile if that is your preference. The 3V will be plenty strong even at a thinner grind.

The Bushcrafter II looks like a very nice knife. You might as well have Bark River modify it to your liking so that you enjoy using it rather than stuffing it away in a drawer or selling it for a loss.

Phil
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to be sure, it's a beautiful knife and I plan to keep and enjoy it. I may have to send it back like you say since I'd prefer not to take on this challange myself unless there was an easy way.
 
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