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ddraper110

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I just purchased a fox river in 3v. This is my 1st 3v. I have seen all the you tube videos from a guy named virtuvoice talking about micro bevel on 3v. He places them on waterstones and grinds it off. I always take you tube videos with a grain of salt. I have seen mike stewart owner of bark river deny this. Al I know is this. I have about 20 barkies and I have never purchased one that is not razor shaving sharp until I got this 3v today. It is sharp but nothing like a2's. What is opinions on 3v. Should I strop it or use sandpaper etc...
David
 
ddraper110 said:
I just purchased a fox river in 3v. This is my 1st 3v. I have seen all the you tube videos from a guy named virtuvoice talking about micro bevel on 3v. He places them on waterstones and grinds it off. I always take you tube videos with a grain of salt. I have seen mike stewart owner of bark river deny this. Al I know is this. I have about 20 barkies and I have never purchased one that is not razor shaving sharp until I got this 3v today. It is sharp but nothing like a2's. What is opinions on 3v. Should I strop it or use sandpaper etc...
David
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I don't get it. You're saying Mike Stewart denies his knives having a microbevel? You're saying the dude from YouTube says all 3V knives have microbevels? What exactly is there to grind concerning a microbevel? You're saying that A2 gets sharper than 3V? Are you saying that stropping or using sandpaper is more effective on certain steels? I don't get your post at all but I'll try to throw out some tidbits.

Sandpaper and stropping work equally well for what they were intended to do across almost all steels, depending on the steel, sandpaper, strop compound, user skill, etc. If a knife is made from 3V, that does not automatically imply that it comes with a microbevel. Some knives come from the factory sharper than others of the exact same model. It depends on who's sharpening it at the factory and how good they did, that's one of the reasons a lot of guys advocate throwing your own edge onto a new blade among a couple of other reasons. Waterstones are not necessarily better at creating a sharp edge, it depends on who is using what. 3V is not really considered a steel with large grain structures so its not really better or worse than A2 in that regard.

I don't know what you're saying in your post so I hope what I posted helps at least a little bit.
 
It's probably just not fully sharpened. 3V will take a very sharp edge. Just sharpen it up the way you usually do. The knife will have a convex edge of some sort, but you can sharpen it by maintaining the convex edge or by putting a V edge on it. There are a zillion ways to sharpen a knife. Everyone has their favorite approach, and most work just fine.

Strop it after you've gotten it fully sharpened.
 
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All I was trying to figure out is why this 1st knife of 3v sent to me was not sharp. Every a2 knife I have got in mail has been razor sharp. There has been a user on you tube saying bark river is sharpening 3v knives differently than a2 which causes them to not be as sharp. Just seeing if this was just me or other people have had similar problem.
David
 
Blade geometry is at least as important as, if not more important than, blade steel type. Is this your first Fox River model?
 
"Hello knife people!" Virtuvoice has forgotten more about steel and grinds than I care to ever learn.
 
Hi David,if it's really bad I'd send it back to Bark River.They are nice and would surely fix it. Hello knife people opted to re grind it himself being he lives in Japan.
 
Virtuvoice is a hack.

That guy wastes viewers time more than he wastes deer meat. He just doesn't understand how to progress through sharpening and is more than likely getting a toothier edge. Which I wouldn't expect anyone to be a metalurgist, but he's experienceing what you'd call user error.

I just checked my proscalpel II 3V, no microbev. ;)

As much as I hate giving that tool one more view I watched the video in question. Dude is too rough on the strop, it will have a dulling factor as I stated above. Also if he used diamond from 600 up, he'd have more control of the edge. Sucks he's one of the few places on the web you can see those tools in action if you're trying to buy one.

A folding double sided diamond stone for the field and treated leather strop and you can make just about any steel sing.

Seriously who does this...Mmmm gouged ass meat. Grandpa needs to take a butchery class.
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ddraper110 said:
Bodog
All I was trying to figure out is why this 1st knife of 3v sent to me was not sharp. Every a2 knife I have got in mail has been razor sharp. There has been a user on you tube saying bark river is sharpening 3v knives differently than a2 which causes them to not be as sharp. Just seeing if this was just me or other people have had similar problem.
David
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Any knife no mater the material can come not sharp from the factory. This youtube guy is full of bull snot. Sharpen your knife the way you usually would for a BRKT or send it back.
 
ddraper110 said:
Bodog
All I was trying to figure out is why this 1st knife of 3v sent to me was not sharp. Every a2 knife I have got in mail has been razor sharp. There has been a user on you tube saying bark river is sharpening 3v knives differently than a2 which causes them to not be as sharp. Just seeing if this was just me or other people have had similar problem.
David
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If all you're wondering is why your 3V knife isn't as sharp as others, all that means is that whoever sharpened that knife that day didn't do that well. Nothing more. You can sharpen it yourself or you can maybe exchange it for a different knife. Really though most factory edges leave something to be desired.
 
Just to correct both of you above, it's "virtuovice", not "virtuvoice", on the YouTube. You're misplacing the "o" in his user name.

In any case, I find him to be a bit long-winded but, at the same time, mildly entertaining for some reason...

To each his own, I suppose.
 
I've got a Fox river in 3v. No micro bevel and sharp as can be. BRKT are production blades, so you can't expect perfection. Just strop it and if you can't get it sharp enough send it back. Be warned, their customer service can be a pain sometimes.

Also virtuovice is great stuff. I enjoy his videos.
 
I don't use anything but diamond for the CPM types .Normally an occasional touch up with diamond is all I need . When you buy a knife you can sharpen it however you want !! Polished edges I have no use for .
 
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