Bark River Golok's evolution

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Sicnere apologies to those who thought I'd have a some great pics and insights an experiences of the various Golok releases -- 1095, A2, 1080C and I think one more steel that I can't rememeber... can someone else shed some light on the diff steels (and these are listed in no particular order).

That is what I'm hoping for in this thread. You see, I love my BR Golok, more than any other knife I have in my possession. Although that will probably change when my Murray Carter kneck knive finally gets here (3+ weeks in Customs so far:eek:)... but I digress. My current Golok is nice, plain, and functional: 1080C blade, and green canvas micarta handle w/ red liners. I'm so smitten with it that I'm considering something I'ver never done before--buying a double. But I want the next one to be a bit different (e.g. another bladesteel) and have a "special" handle material (e.g. horn or stag, burled, spalted or exotic wood).

So I'd lovelovelove any pics, opinions, experiences, of the various Bark River Golok releases with different steels. Like, are some or even just one more prone to edge deformation/damage with hard use?... I've read more than a few guys saying that it's a precision instrument with an ultra-thin edge and must be hit essentially perfectly if it's not to fail. Any of the steels used on it fare better in that sense?

Or Maybe just simply ramble on the Golok's progression and some of the steels' pros and cons as relelvant to their performance in the Bark River Golok form and its intended uses? Sharpness capabilities, rust proneness, edge stability, stain resistence, wear resistance, edge holding, etc. of some of the steels from this line?

Here's some pics of mine in 1080C to start us off. Some since things about the 1080C on this full convex grind is that it can get ridiculously sharp... doesn't hold the edge all that long at 54hc but it's frightening while it lasts. Some not so nice things about this steel that I've experienced? Edge deformation -- dents and waves etc. What do you expect, though, with such a crazy-thin edge? It's an acceptable trade-off in my book.

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Anyone else? Thanks.:)
 
The original BRK Golok was 0170-6. Excellent geometry, but the quality on mine was horrible, and it was returned.
As far as I know it was never made in A2.
I planned to try one of the newer ones, but 54RC was a big turnoff for me on a knife this size.
 
The original BRK Golok was 0170-6. Excellent geometry, but the quality on mine was horrible, and it was returned.
As far as I know it was never made in A2.
I planned to try one of the newer ones, but 54RC was a big turnoff for me on a knife this size.


my proto is in 0170-6....holds a mean edge and the quality is excellent on mine. i even bought a 1095 production model to compare....liked the proto better.

prototype on top. production below it...lined them up at the plunge.

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Its in 1095 now right? I remember (and witnessed) some chipping issues with the other steels so I'm glad they smoothed that out. Great tool for its size.
 
Its in 1095 now right?

judging from the listing on KSF, it's 1080C currently.

of course, i've seen vendors with jacked up product descriptions before. :rolleyes:

found a BF thread that says it should be tougher than 1095 but have slightly less edge retention.
 
Its in 1095 now right? I remember (and witnessed) some chipping issues with the other steels so I'm glad they smoothed that out. Great tool for its size.

Current producton run is in 1080-C, which, according to Mike Stewart, was chosen to address some "issues" with the run of 1095 blades. What exactly those issues were, I can't remember from the posts I read.

I had one in A2 but traded it away. It wasn't heavy enough for my needs, but it was a well made knife.

Andy

It is fairly light, or at least well balanced and fast in hand. That's one of the things I like about it. I don't consider it a big chopper, so I don't expect it to perform like one [although it comes pretty damn close with all that weight at the spine (0.25") just behind a true convex razor edge]. I see this Golok as hybrid chopper/machete; it does both types of tasks very well. And in this sense I believe it is an excellent camp knife, better than your average jack-of-all-trades knife/tool, it is a great compromise for weight and space conscious backpackers, hikers, canoers, etc. who need machete and chopper capabilities in one knife.

And well made indeed. Sorry to hear OwenM got a stinker, but that's par for the course with BR is't it? Most are fantastic, some aren't, due to them being hand finished. I'm no fanboy (of any brand), but all my Bark Rivers have been flawless.

The original BRK Golok was 0170-6. Excellent geometry, but the quality on mine was horrible, and it was returned.
As far as I know it was never made in A2.
I planned to try one of the newer ones, but 54RC was a big turnoff for me on a knife this size.

I hear ya. Ultimately it is the hardness issue (see wave and dent issues in my orignal post) that will get me to commit to another BR Golok with different steel. But I think simply putting a thicker edge on the 1080-C will compensate for the low hardness... just grind away until you're forced into thicker real estate up the blade toward the spine.
 
I hear ya. Ultimately it is the hardness issue (see wave and dent issues in my orignal post) that will get me to commit to another BR Golok with different steel. But I think simply putting a thicker edge on the 1080-C will compensate for the low hardness... just grind away until you're forced into thicker real estate up the blade toward the spine.
Regrinding wouldn't bother me a lot on a $15 Tramontina but on a $200 chopper it's a bit hard to swallow.
 
Yeah, destroying the geometry would be defeating the purpose of having the thing to begin with. A "hybrid chopper/machete" is indeed how I envision this tool, though.
Do have some concern that they can't seem to stick with a blade material, and wonder why that is. Maybe memory isn't serving me well, but it didn't strike me as an extreme blade/edge geometry, just a very good one that I would have thought most of these materials would support. I don't really know anything about 1080 beyond basic information and what some data sheets about HT show, though.
 
You could get one with a point... ;)

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I don't remember an A2 version. I know the change from 1095 to 1080C was done because some of the 1095 versions were brittle for some reason. Pictures can be found if you look hard enough... large chips and even completely broken in half.

I didn't have that problem with my old 1095 version. Not sure if some had a bad heat treat or what... but my custom 1080C is pretty fun. :cool:

And I haven't had problems with edge retention on it with the lower hardness.
 
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