BAS Review

chad234

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My duty bag is now a pound and a half heavier. I have added a H.I BAS after extensive testing.
My Bas was forged by Sher and bears his Full Sun mark, although one need only see the blade's thickness (over a half inch) to know who forged the blade. The brass inlayed sword of shiva is nicely done and the finish was magic stone mirror. The handle is black bone (I believe water buffalo shin) and is very well done.
The Chakma and Karda were not as well done, the heat treatment was not nearly of the same quality as the main blade, both were very soft. The sheath showed the disparity between the skills of the Kami's and sheath makers.
I received my knife swiftly and Uncle Bill was a pleasure to deal with. All the kind words which I have read have been true.
After removing the heavy packing grease, (shipped during monsoon season) I inspected the blade and found that the edge was very dull with a large flat spot for the first two inches from the point. I used DMT diamond whetstones to add a secondary bevel and a round diamond hone on the recurved portion of the blade. I finished off with my homemade strops going through white rouge, jewelers' rouge and smooth leather. This not only polished the edge but also removed the many large scratched left by the whetstones.
The majority of my testing was spent chopping down small trees, 2-6 inches thick. This test is useful for judging the overall choppping capabilities of a blade, and for simulating construction of survival shelter. It aslo cleared the patch of secondary growth that my wife wanted cleared.
The chopping ability of the blade was awsome. As I chopped a shower of wood chips was in a constant stream in the air, the blade was very fast and bit deep, going through larger pieces of wood in less then twenty strokes and severing smaller trees (1-2 inches) in a single stroke with a "fluid shockwave" type strike, placing emphasis on the use of full body motion (through a step and hip rotation. I have had no bando training so I used the baton blows that I have been trained in.
I then simulated emergency building/ auto entry.
I began by cutting the tops of three large deck sealant cans. The edge was dulled but undamaged, the finish was heavily marred with several deep scratches and lots of smaller scratches.
I then tested the blade and handles ability to handle heavy impact stress. I began by using the edge to chop large pieces of ice (one gallon milk jugs filled with water and frozen.) I went through six and didn't faze the blade.
I then used the spine of the knife to break cinder blocks. I placed three layers of thick cardboard on a dozen cinderblocks, and covered the edge of the blade in cardboard and duct tape (tape, cardbord, more tape). While wearing eye protection and welders guantlets I used the spine to destroy the cinder blocks. I stopped after nine blocks, because my arm was tired.
I unwrapped the blade expecting at least moderate damage, there was none. The blade remained true and the handle firmly affixed, even the buttcap stayed tight. I was truly impressed, this test would have destroyed a lesser knife. I am amazed at the results of the zone hardening of the spring steel, it is ductile and resiliant, yet the edge is hard enough (I would estimate 58 rc based on the time and effort consumed removing the metal to create the secondary edge bevels) to hold an edge.
The aspect which seperates this knife from any other that I have owned is its spirit. The blade seems to possess an energy, or life force, all its own, there is a character, an aura to the knife like no other I have encountered. There is something truly mystical about this knife. I know that it was forged for me.
In sum, I am very pleased with HI's products and just as pleased in my dealing with Mr. Martino.
I also purchased a Kumar King Kobra (30") that I thought would be excellent for use during marijuana interdiction instead of a machette. (I am NOT involved in these operations, I wanted to test the knife, perhaps for publication) The size perception of HI forumites is truly warped, the blade is 1/2" thick, it is almost three feet long and the khukuri is so heavy that I could never swing it with any sort of speed. The quality of the knife is typical HI, excellent, but it is far too much blade for me. I have posted it for trade at the new buy sharp forum (at knifecorner.com). It is new in box, and very pretty, but it is neither quick nor agile, at least not for me. If you want a VERY big knife make an offer. chad234@email.com

May you all be blessed with peace.
Stay Safe,
Chad


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Welcome Chad
Good to have another LEO here. There are a few of us.
I too have a Sher made BAS. I have used it some but I haven't put it through the paces like you did. Sher makes some good stuff! My BAS is almost the equal of my Ang Kohla in chopping ability and has better balance. It's a damn fine knife!
I had similar notions for a Kobra but you are right.It's too big.
Bill has been talking about a line of "light" khuks. We'll see what come of it.
Good review.
 
Welcome Chad.

You might consider asking Bill to swap out your chakma. A soft one won’t do much good.

I usually use crock sticks in preference to the chakma anyway, except when I’m in the field and don’t have one. But all of the chakmas I’ve received are hard enough to do the job if called upon. If yours isn’t you should consider replacing it.
 
Very good review. Chad, you took the time and went to considerable effort to test and get some meaningful results. Many thanks. It tells the story and I appreciate it a lot and I think everybody else does, too.

And as Howard said, if the karda and chakma are too soft send them back and we will dig up some harder ones. Both Sher and Kumar use their helpers extensively and this karda and chakma may be the product of a helper. I'll send a reminder back to BirGorkha about this.
I don't mind the kids stuff but they have to do it right!

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
Welcome to the forum Chad234. I'm glad a fellow LEO is with us here. I too carry a H.I. Khukuri as part of my duty bag. A 19" Ang Khola made by Sher, and a 20" Sirupati. Excellent blades! You can exchange that 30" Kobra with Bill if you want something else. The 20" and 25" Kobras will be better for you intended tasks on those fields. Take care.
 
I thank you all for your warm welcome

Jaeger- We do seem to find each other don't we, the gym I work out at is about half LEO,
had no idea when I joined.

Mr. Wallace- I found you FAQ to be a plentiful source of information, I think a compilation to hard copy would be very interesting. I read the Craig Gottleib is producing a videography of Kamis in Nepal, I think a HI video would sell well at the Cantina.

Broken Arrow- Again, thank you for the welcome, I have read many of your posts (in fact I searched by username) and have found the quality of your writings to be excellent, I particularly enjoyed your review of the Everest Katana.

I have no doubt that Uncle bill would exchange the karda and chakma on the BAS, however I find that a DMT diafold and eze-lap type M round hone make much better feild sharpener/ burnisher and a Spyderco Moran or BM Nimravus make a better "small" knife.
I have considered having a Kydex sheath made, I feel that without the space for the chakma and karda the BAS would be a much slimmer package.
I thought about trading in the King Kobra but I don't think I could use anything much larger than the BAS, also I feel bad for having ruined the finish on my BAS, when I received the knife it was truly museum quality, the blade was a mirror and the black bone handle was the nicest I have seen. In retrospect I should have gotten a village model with a rougher finish, I hate to think of what Sher would say if he say the cosmetic damage I had done. I could buff it out, but I only restored the edge and applied marine tuff coat, it will be a user.
Thank you again for the warm welcome and for your time.

Chad


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"Above all know this, to thine own self be true." The Bard
 
Cracked record time again...

If you're looking for something that handles like a lightweight machete and cuts like a lightsaber, get a *25 inch* Kobra. It's completely different in feel, balance and character from its big brother, and (IMHO) vastly superior in all departments.

(I spent Friday laying and trimming overgrown beech and hazel hedges with mine; eight hours of hacking through springy, ornery twigs and awkward-to-get-at trunks and saplings up to 5" diameter. No other tool could have gotten the job done so quickly and efficiently, and with less fatigue. As a finale, I cut down a 17" diameter apple tree witn the same khuk. Taking it steady, with careful placement of the cuts; piece of cake.

I haven't made significant use of any of my other khuks, not to mention my large collection of billhooks, brush hooks, beanhooks and other brush-clearing tools, since I got the 25" Kobra; it and the scythe are all I need.

Help put Uncle Bill out of business by buying just one khukuri that does everything!)
 
Bill Martino wrote -

"Tom, have you bought anything since the 25" Kobra? I may have to discontinue that line."


As I said at the time, the 25" Kobra is a sovereign cure, not just for HIKV but for oxyphilia in general. If you've got one, you don't need or even want anything else. Darn it, I haven't even used the 20" villager since the Kobra arrived.

(Probably just as well, given that every time I've logged on lately there's been a screenful of pix of really cute blems, and they're always gone by the time I get to see them... A guy could go crazy that way, Bill, if he wasn't already cured.)

(Mind you, having looked at the Thin thread, if anything were to tempt me to play false to my one true love, it'd be a deeply-fullered 27" sirupati with a back thickness 1/4" to the elbow tapering to 3/16" at the centre of percussion, spine jumped up Khyber-knife-style into a 3/8" wide T section... But no. I will be strong. I am saved.)

You've definitely gotta discontinue the midi-Kobra, Bill, before it lands you in the poorhouse.

 
Great review, did you do any photo's for your publicatin? What is a duty bag? From the sounds of it the khukuri should be great for vehical extratction wheather the occupants want to come out or not.

I would doubt that Sher or any of the kami's would mind the cosmetic damage. I am sure that the khukuri gets much more neglect in Nepal (i.e. rust, rocks, etc.)

Will
 
Thanks, Tom. Certainly food for thought.

Cosmetic damage is the least of our worries as you know, Will. What we don't want to see is bending, breaking, edge chipping and/or rolling.

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Blessings from the computer shack in Reno.

Uncle Bill
Himalayan Imports Website
Khukuri FAQ
 
Mr. Kwan-
Thank you.
My duty bag is a large ballistic nylon briefcase type bag (available f/ gall's)
I keep report forms (more than you would believe), my clipboard, a pair of binoculars
(Bushnell 10x50), polaroid camera, mini tape recorder, extra ammunition, plastic zip cuffs, large maglight, Michigan Criminal Law and procedure (Steffel) and now a BAS.
I have some pictures and would be glad to mail them to you or I could scan and post them (I would need some advise on how to do this.)
The BAS is carried as a tool, not a weapon.
When assigned to the Patrol Services Park Unit, my unit was responsible for patrol of County Parks, I carried an E-tool, I envision the BAS will be used for the same types of tasks.


May you be blessed with peace.
Chad


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Thanks for the info Chad. By the way call me Will, I keep looking for an older Kwan when I hear or see Mr. Kwan.

Will
 
Oops! I called you Mister a few times.Sorry uncle
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I thoroughly enjoy hearing a new owner discover "an aura to the knife" and the fact that "the blade seems to possess an energy...all its own"

Welcome to the world of the khukuri Chad. Wait till you handle some really old knives. They tell stories.




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JP
 
A steel softer than a knife is not much good is it?Also,they are used with flint for fire starting.
 
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