Bastard Sword?

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Chrontius

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Just wondering right now, but I'm curious as to whether a double-edged bastard sword or longsword could be made akin to the long Himalayan Sword for German-style longsword techniques.

Before I get emotionally invested in the idea, is this even possible?
 
I'm sure they could but the question becomes would there be enough of a market, how much would it cost to purchase and make?
 
Chrontius said:
Exactly what I was thinking of.
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Since we've seen the odd request for special designs become a reality before, I can't imagine it'd be a lot of trouble for the kamis to modify an existing pattern... say, a double-edged long Tibetan, or an extra big Dukti/Manjushree, if only as a one-off, special request.
 
C.S. Graves said:
Since we've seen the odd request for special designs become a reality before, I can't imagine it'd be a lot of trouble for the kamis to modify an existing pattern... say, a double-edged long Tibetan, or an extra big Dukti/Manjushree, if only as a one-off, special request.
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I totally agree with C.S. ! Just email or phone Yangdu with detailed designs and instructions and specifications and you could be very surprised at how easily and relatively quickly such a project is undertaken.:thumbup:
 
Claymores are fine and dandy, but they're only good for a couple good swings before you drop them and go to something lighter. If you take the time to recover from the second swing (which used the momentum from the first) you've been stabbed already.

German blossfetchen was developed around much more nimble blades than that... on the other hand, a claymore could stop a mounted knight. :D
 
Chrontius said:
Claymores are fine and dandy, but they're only good for a couple good swings before you drop them and go to something lighter. If you take the time to recover from the second swing (which used the momentum from the first) you've been stabbed already.

German blossfetchen was developed around much more nimble blades than that... on the other hand, a claymore could stop a mounted knight. :D
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Wait, but in Braveheart Mel Gibson used that thing the whole way through! :rolleyes: I've held one before and those things are INSANELY heavy. I agree... it's good for a few swings, maybe to dismount a rider (by hacking the legs of a passing horse)... but in close quarters those things are more treacherous to the user than the guy on the receiving end.
 
If you held a claymore that was "insanely heavy" then it must have been a bad replica.
The real ones weighed 3-4 pounds max.
 
DannyinJapan said:
If you held a claymore that was "insanely heavy" then it must have been a bad replica.
The real ones weighed 3-4 pounds max.
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still too heavy for my liking, but good point :thumbup:

These warriors depended on their weapons and skills to survive, it would be stupid to carry something that you would only have the energy to kill a few with.
 
The ironic thing is I'm a big guy, 6'5" and about 245 lbs, but I prefer short swords. Sure I appreciate a good viking sword, but given my druthers I'd pick a smaller blade combined with a buckler if civilization totally collapsed and we were back to medieval (or older) weapons.

I bet the Sirupati & buckler combination would be pretty effective.


I'd also like to see the kamis make a 20" Seax. Oh yes indeed.
 
It may be hard to get the kamis into making a bastard sword of the right proportions, like 44" long and about 3 pounds. I'm still not quite sure how they were convinced to make katanas of around 34 oz.

I'm guessing making "light" swords compromises their ethics. "I'm paid to make good swords, so I make good swords!" And to them, "good" means "indestructible."
 
Chrontius said:
Claymores are fine and dandy, but they're only good for a couple good swings before you drop them and go to something lighter. If you take the time to recover from the second swing (which used the momentum from the first) you've been stabbed already.
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You've either A.) Seen bad, Bud-K look alikes, B.) seen someone who doesn't know how to use one, or C.) Both.

In case you didn't know, they were made so that a footman could engage a horseman, because as expensive as they were, they are cheaper than a horse.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
You've either A.) Seen bad, Bud-K look alikes, B.) seen someone who doesn't know how to use one, or C.) Both.

In case you didn't know, they were made so that a footman could engage a horseman, because as expensive as they were, they are cheaper than a horse.
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In that role (engaging a horseman) I think I'd rather have a good ol' pole-axe.
 
Chrontius said:
Claymores are fine and dandy, but they're only good for a couple good swings before you drop them and go to something lighter. If you take the time to recover from the second swing (which used the momentum from the first) you've been stabbed already.

German blossfetchen was developed around much more nimble blades than that... on the other hand, a claymore could stop a mounted knight. :D
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LOL. You say that as if it is a defect.

I have never fought with either. I plan to do neither.

LOL.


Are you going to fight with a boogledydo?

I'll take one of each please. But, I won't be swinging them around unless it's required. And, in that case I'll be using something lighter and faster.

LOL, I guess I agree with you.

Yes, I want a bastard sword, a claymore, an epee, a hoe, an axe and a damn good shovel. I'd pay good money for any of these tools made by a real smith such as the kamis of Himalayan Imports.

I would REALLY love a TACHI, though.

That is a big bad long sword, the predecessor of the katana, from what they tell me anyway.

Master Bura should make a Tachi. Gotta control the heating/curve though. I'm sure he's capable.
 
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If you want the kamis to make a special sword, draw it out, full scale 1:1 on a stiff piece of carboard and mail it to Yangdu.
That's how the teardrop sirupati came about...

As to the claymore, it's really just a flamberge with a different hilt. Those blades were made thin and flexible by German master smiths. The bare blades were exported all over Europe and prized for their lightness. If you ever get the chance to handle a real one, you will be amazed. They feel like air, just air. Hardly any pressure required to sweep an arc 8 feet wide.
 
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