Batoning the $20 Dozier

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In advance:
Don't baton with a folding knife. It's not covered by warranty and is likely to result in malfunction and / or injury. If the Dozier broke, I assume no warranty coverage and just have some spare parts.

Okay, I wanted to see if I could make do with the standard $20 Dozier folder (the exact model is 4062) if I needed to split wood. It's linerless, just FRN handles, so I was curious to see how it would hold up. A few words on how I did what I did...
-The wood was dry and anywhere from 1/2" to 2-1/2" in diameter. Enough blade was exposed to be batoned through. Most of the wood was pine, but there was some oak in there. I avoided knots.
-The baton was just another piece of wood, oak this time. I didn't try to kill the wood; a few medium taps does enough.
-The knife was NOT locked open. This ensures lock failure. So, I started the blade in to where it wouldn't get out of the wood, then unlocked it. The handle was folded down (about 90 degrees) and batoning went as normal. As the tip was hammered through, the handle was pulled down. Doing it this way puts all of the pressure on the pivot pin (and the FRN handles) and none on the locking mechanism (since it's not locked).

So, how did it do? It did really well. The edge didn't chip or roll, but it did dull a bit. I started with an edge that would slice paper, and it was brought back in about two minutes on a smooth ceramic stick and strop. There was no failure in the FRN; no chips, cracks, or anything. There was no change in lock-up except that the pivot screw had loosened up, and this was remedied with a Torx driver. All in all, the Dozier did quite well. I don't advise doing this a lot. I split enough wood for one large 30-minute fire using only the Dozier and my oak baton. It's nice to know that the knife can do this chore, but I'm not going to make a habit of it.

UPDATE: Upon close examination, the pivot bolt spins freely now. For those who don't know, the pivot bolt is a D-shaped bolt and the flat part fits into a flat in the FRN handle. The bolt itself is fine, but the flat in the handle is rounded out now. This causes the bolt to spin freely instead of stopping. I simply used a pair of pliers to hold the bolt still while I tightened the Torx screw that goes into the bolt. Not a major problem, and easily fixed, but something to note. Buy a Dozier.
 
There aren't any photos; I didn't have a camera with me. However, here's the Dozier as of right now...
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Sweetness. Good post, actually, great post.

And with all the info on your technique, its quite an informative post.

I agree with you, batoning folders is not the way to go, but if its all ya got, its all ya got.

Fantastic.

Moose
 
Interesting technique, so thanks for sharing.

I wasn't aware of the strain put on the knife lock whilst battoning.
I shall have to adopt this method if ever I need to baton my folder when out in the woods.

Thanks again.
 
Very nice. Is the flat spot in the pivot hole the same area that would take the load when you pull down on the handle? Do you think the pressure just pushed the frn out of shape until it rounded out? Good test of one of my favorite knives.
 
Great post and very informitive,
I agree a Dozier with just about any steel and design should do just about any trick one ask, as long as you think through the method such as you have done with this thread. Thanks for sharing and the Dozier 4050 still my favorite EDC, will try a few more as new funds come available for 2012 but am very happy with the 4050, Good Luck and a Happy New Year to One and All
 
scruffuk; There's a lot of force applied to the lock (linerlock, lockback, whatever) when batoning with a folding knife. Unlock it, and that force goes into the blade pivot bolt and handle. Those can absorb the force way more easily than the lock.

mlanghornes; No, the flat spot in the pivot hole is actually horizontal (if you're holding the knife with the tip pointing up) and at the top. So pulling down would put the force at about the 3 o' clock portion of the hole. I'm not sure what caused the hole to deform, but it's not a big deal.

nutoknives; If you want, PM or E-mail me your address and I'll get a Dozier to you.
 
Very generous of you JNieporte but I will have my head handed to me if the wife see's one more knife come into the house, had won a custom 112 over in the Buck forum and she threw a fit had to show her the post so she did not throw me out. If and when I get my PO Box I will let you know have a great New Year and will see you on the forum's.
 
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