Becker BK7 vs. BK9....

Shadow213

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I've decided on getting a new wilderness blade from BK&T but I can't make up my mind on which of these two would be best. I've read that the BK7 has the perfect compromise in blade length for a majority of wilderness cutting chores, but I also like the BK9 for its' sheer size.

Which would you choose and why?

Thanks for your input. :D
 
I have the BK9, not the 7, but I'll say this: The 9 is one heavy sucker. I don't know if there's a large weight difference (Help me out, guys!) but if there is, I'd go for the 7, as it would be easier to carry....

But if you like the big ones, the 9 is awesome. You could chop an arm off with it.

.... as skammer has pointed out, with Swamp Rat you'll get much better steel. If it's in your budget, it'd be money well spent. If not, you'll get plenty of knife for the money with BK&T's offerings.
 
But Ive got both the 7 AND the 9! (And a Battle Rat on order!!)
I do find the 9 rather heavy, its almost machete-size, so I would probably favour the BK7, Ive used it to make pretty good lean-to shelters, and the thick heavy blade (of both models!) is useful for hammer & pry-bar applications! I also like the handle, and though I havent got round to it yet, I intend to store some "fire-making" equipment inside the scales.
I seem to remember reading/hearing about some SF operator being asked what he felt was most essential in a Survival Kit, and he answered (Im probably paraphrasing here!!) "Something to cut things with & Something to make fire!" Id agree with that"
The sheath on the BK line is pretty good & as far as Im aware the Battle Rat scabbard looks almost identical, albeit in Black. I wouldve liked a larger sheath-pouch, but may well treat myself to a Spec-Ops Survival sheath yet.

Stu

PS I also rate the Ka-bar!
 
No experience with the 9, but I do have the 7 and have had absolutely no trouble with it and find the edge retention to be excellent. It's been used for everything from kitchen duty to game chores to heavy chopping and it handled the work without a hitch. A longer blade will chop better and a shorter blade will be easier to handle with more delicate work, but for an overall get the job done knife, I think it's a good one.
 
I've been undecided on this for quite a while now, but I think that I'm going to go with the BK9. The main reason is that I'd like to have that extra reach and heft to split firewood and since I have a 7 inch blade already, a KaBar, the 9 would be the way to go, IMO. Although with the excellent price, I figure that I can get the BK7 a little later on, since the KaBar isn't too appealing to me anymore(tang feels loose in handle).

I've had a Swamp Rat Camp Tramp before and those Rats are real hardcore knives, but I don't really want to spend too much on any wilderness/survival blade that I buy, since I won't need it on a daily basis. (Stupid me....I sold the Camp Tramp a while back. :grumpy: :footinmou)
 
Between the two, the BK9 is the better chopper because of it’s heavier (longer, thicker stock) blade and resultant more blade heavy balance.

The BK7 is more of a compromise do everything knife and as such is not as good a chopper, but it is much lighter and easier to carry. The BK7’s thinner blade thickness also gives the handles a different feel, which I actually prefer over the thicker feel of the BK9.


He’s a trail clearing/chopping comparison that I posted of these two and several others that I posted over at KF -


http://www.knifeforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB42&Number=404538




- Frank
 
StuToffee said:
But Ive got both the 7 AND the 9! (And a Battle Rat on order!!)
I do find the 9 rather heavy, its almost machete-size, so I would probably favour the BK7, Ive used it to make pretty good lean-to shelters, and the thick heavy blade (of both models!) is useful for hammer & pry-bar applications! I also like the handle, and though I havent got round to it yet, I intend to store some "fire-making" equipment inside the scales.
I seem to remember reading/hearing about some SF operator being asked what he felt was most essential in a Survival Kit, and he answered (Im probably paraphrasing here!!) "Something to cut things with & Something to make fire!" Id agree with that"
The sheath on the BK line is pretty good & as far as Im aware the Battle Rat scabbard looks almost identical, albeit in Black. I wouldve liked a larger sheath-pouch, but may well treat myself to a Spec-Ops Survival sheath yet.

Stu

PS I also rate the Ka-bar!
I just bought a BK-7 JUST to put in my Survival sheath!
I was having problems deciding between the Camp Tramp and the BK-7, but the price on the BK-7 was just TOO enticing!
Of course now I will order a Camp Tramp anyways, because the BK-7 was just SO cheap that I do not feel like I am out hardly anything($49.00).
 
Thanks for the post, James, but I plan on getting mine for $43.72. :D :eek:

Check out the BK9....only $53.10!
 
i have a battle rat myself and love it. But, if i were to do it again, i think i would go for the 7.5" camp tramp, thus i would say get the bk7 (unless you are keeping this thing in a car or something). the extra 2'' i think actually do make the knife just a bit too long, and not very realistic for belt carry (IMO/IME) 'cus it dangles down too much when kneeling. i take my BR with me on any car camp, and i have even brought it on backpacking trip and i loved it for around camp wood splitting, but it was a bit over the top for just putting on the belt while fishing ect.

good luck.
 
I have a Battle Rat too...and a Camp Tramp...I'm a Swamp Rat fan, but I recently got a BK9 and to be honest, in normal conditions, I can't see or feel a difference in use. If it succes any of us to break a BK9, even in hard survival conditions, then you had to take a pry bar! :D After I got the BK9, I was so pleased of the knife so I got a BK7 too! They're both great, if u plan to carry it, a BK7 will be more compact and lighter, personnaly, I allways carry 2 fixed blades when hiking or out in wilderness, one on my belt and a big choper in the backpack. If I only had to take one with me, I'll go for the BK9,my philosophy is: if it can more, it can less. ;) Yep, for sure Swamp Rats knives are great, and might be stronger in extreme tests conditions, but I'm pretty sure that a BK&T will do the job in any given human condition. I know plenty of Marines who made it trough exteme hardcore stuff with their Ka-Bar! so not to comand anybody,but just to suggest,if you only have a BK7, don't feel under-equiped, and instead of getting a Camp Tramp, invest in some cool survival gear. ;) or a BK9!
 
I like the added length and the blade shape better on the BK9. That's the big blade I keep in my BOB. The BK9, paired up with the Becker Necker will give cover most of your wilderness cutting needs.
 
Mounted on the front of the sheath in a Nylon case designed for Garmin GPS unit (approx 6" x 3" x 2"), I cut some of the padding out of the pouch to thin it out a little & stapped it to the sheath with 2 big cable-ties.
The pouch contains:-

2 x Large Ziploc freezer bags
Aluminium Foil
Burn Blot dressing
Alcowipe
Plasters (Band Aids!)
Painkillers
Starflash Signal Mirror
Fresnel Lens
Metal Thimble
P38 Can opener
Dogtag (engraved with ID details, pic of loved one on reverse!)
2 Scalpel blades
2 Ranger bands
Safety pins
Piece of Inner tube (3" x 6")
Sharpening stone
Sewing kit
Whistle
LED torch
Spark rite & 6 tinderquick tabs
5 Vaseline/Cotton balls
Bike tyre patch glue (Vulcanizing fluid)
2 Magic birthday cake candles
Mini bic lighter
Matches & striker
Lifeboat Matches & striker
Wire saw
Steel snare wire
Duct tape
Superglue
Puritabs
Potassium Permanganate
Spy capsule containing £20 note
Traser glowring (on outside of pouch)
SAK Tweezers
Silva compass
Fishing kit (2 types of line, 16 asstd hooks, 10 asstd weights, lure, gaff, float)
2 Large eye needles
Curved needle
Dental floss
Nylon cord
Snaplight chemical lightstick
12" plastic drinking tube
Bin liner (wrapped around base of sheath)
Paracord (wrapped over the bin liner to hold it in place)

Mounted on the rear of the sheath (but I may put them INSIDE yet, behind the kydex liner!) are a hacksaw blade & an Aitor JK1 skinning knife/spearhead.

Hope this little lot is of interest? I welcome your comments.

Many thanks, guys.
 
I had written this up for my own records, this is always a work in progress. I thought it would fit well in this thread. Mac

Becker BK-7 Kit

Specifications and Reasoning

The knife kit presupposes the loss of all other gear. The very idea of a survival kit located on the sheath knife is that the knife is the most basic piece of gear and stays belted on during any wilderness activity. It cannot fall out of a pocket and is unlikely to be left behind by accident. It is unlikely to be lost overboard or swept away when crossing a river. If a person needs to exit a burning vehicle the kit goes with him while the pack may be lost.

Placing survival items on a knife sheath also presupposes that the normal items carried in the pack cover any foreseeable needs and that nothing in the knife kit should have to be used under normal circumstances, other than the knife itself. They are limited to the items necessary to spend a night or two in the wilderness and signal for help with no other resources other than the contents of the knife kit. The items in the kit must be capable of getting wet and must not degrade with time.

The other item that should be belted on at all times is a US Army canteen with steel cup and stove sleeve. The pouch on the canteen carries two bottles of Potable Agua, a mini-bic lighter, and a small foil packet of KMnO4 as a back up water purification system.

HANDLE CONTENTS – The handle scales of the knife can be removed to reveal two small hollow cavities. These are removed with a small hex-wrench and filled with a fishing/trapping kit: line, sinkers, hooks, wire.

SHEATH CONTENTS – The sheath has a pouch that fits an Altoids tin and there is room below it to attach items with a rubber sleeve. Paracord is attached to the leg tie at bottom of the sheath and the wrist lanyard hole on the handle of the knife.

KNIFE SHARPENER
- US Army ceramic stone, Tied on, rides under velcro strap on top of Altoids tin

FIRE – The kit has both tinder and an initiator that are impervious to the elements.
- Sparklite fire starter, tin
- Sparklite tinder, 4, tin
- Strike anywhere matches, waterproof, 6, tin
- Candle, tin
- Rubber ranger bands, excellent fire-starters, various locations

WATER – The knife contains both a water container and treatment method.
- 5 liter galão de Emergêcia, rolled tightly under rubber sleeve below pouch
- Potassium Permanganate, tin

SHELTER – The shelter provisions are intended to make the construction of an expedient shelter easier, not necessarily to compose a shelter. There are three components, water/wind proofing, heat proofing, and cordage. In practicality only a space blanket will fit on the sheath, attached by ranger bands below the pouch. The space blanket is waterproof/windproof and will trap body heat. The duct tape is used to seal leaks and join seams. The space blanket and rolled water carrier is no more bulky than the pouch and Altoids tin above them.

- Space Blanket, under rubber sleeve
- Para cord, 7 strand, 2 meters attached as leg tie
- Duct tape, 1 meter, wrapped around space blanket
- Heavy needle and #4 waxed line for clothing repairs, tin

SIGNAL
- Day/night mirror, behind tin in pouch
- ACR Whistle, under rubber sleeve on back of sheath
- Inova Night Vision Red LED light, tin
- Other signal methods include space blanket as reflector/marker, and fire/smoke

NAVIGATION
- Medallion type liquid filled compass with #4 waxed-line neck cord, tin

LIGHT
- LED light
- Candle

MEDICAL - 4 square inches Moleskin, inside bottom of tin
- 10 Ibuprophen, tin
- 4 Vicoden ,tin
- Salt, tin
- 6 Benedryl, tin
- Potassium Permanganate, tin
- Sterile Scalpel Blade, tin
- Single edge razor blade, tin
 
I have a BK7, too, though it suddenly feels VERY small after my working on the BK9. Im gonna make a slightly smaller version of my BK9 kit for my BK7, but using a Marks & Spencer Curiously Strong Mints tin ( I THINK theyre similar to Altoids, Why Altoids arent sold in UK when theyre made here is just beyond me!!) & I like the idea of using inner tube as sleeving to hold Space blanket/Bin liner onto sheath.
Like yours, I suspect my kit will remain a work in progress, but then again all my kits seem to be. Im always on the lookout for new items/containers, one day I guess I'll build the "ultimate" kit but until then, well it's good fun isnt it?
Still havent put anything inside the handles of my Bexkers, but like Pict, I expect it to be trapping & fire-starting kit.
 
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