Becker fit and finish (grind marks)

[bghorn]

Started new thread to not go off topic...

So you're suggesting they can polish every knife

I didn't say anything about polished blade. Just smooth enough. See other comparable knives...

and keep the exact same price?

Yes

Case in point:
Becker BK-2 MSRP: $131.35
Becker BK-32 MSRP: $131.35


Another example
Ka-Bar Becker BK-7, OKC RAT 7. Comparable size and price. One of these two has smooth (not polished) finish under the coating.


One more:
Not a knife, but I just bought today a tool, torque wrench to be more exact. 1/2-inch drive, adjustable, with ratchet. Weighs 4 pounds or so. USA made.
Twice the material, quite a lot more complex to manufacture than a knife. Multiple parts, some out of heat treated tool steel. Ergonomic handle, etc
Excellent fit and finish. Got it for $99/95 on sale...

You tell me why a sharpened slab of steel with attached handle scales couldn't have a decent finish without overpaying for it?

And tell me why mostly all knives have smooth blade? If it wouldn't matter they'd all have excessive grind marks.

 

[Silverthorn]

I feel like your trolling. I could be wrong and If I am then Im sorry for saying so, but MSRP isnt what a BK-2 sells for. Try looking on Amazon or an actual dealer like Tomars.

 

[bghorn]

I feel like your trolling.

I just have different opinion than some of the fine folks here. I don't see the harm of having a discussion about fit and finish.

but MSRP isnt what a BK-2 sells for.

It's set by Ka-Bar. Pricing is from Ka-Bar catalog. It's an example of production cost not being so different for Ka-Bar to bother with different pricing.

Try looking on Amazon or an actual dealer like Tomars.

BK-2 goes for about $70.

 

[J W Bensinger]

What would be the point of a high polish under a thick coating? Among other things coatings-even cerakote (which is expensive, tricky to apply and very tough) needs something to adhere to.
Btw both of the Beckers I've stripped looked pretty good underneath.

 

[NCSlice]

I likem', I buyem'...
Don't likem'? Don't buyem'...
I'm not sure of the point here or how it contributes to the forums. Maybe you should contact customer service if you have an issue with your blade grind.
I don't see the point of giving a mirror finish then coating over it.
No idea how a torque wrench converts to this but, ok...nice score,I guess?

 

[granitestateofmind]

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(shameless self promotion )

 

[ichor]

I just have different opinion than some of the fine folks here. I don't see the harm of having a discussion about fit and finish. quote
BK-2 goes for about $70.

I was just defending you on the Becker forum, where some were calling you a troll. Decided to come over here to OKC, where I've only come by accident in the past and....sure enough...here you are (with only 14 posts) stirring up shit just like you were on the Becker forum. What the hell is wrong with people like you? That you're not happy unless you're causing a disturbance of some kind. The Internet of course is ideal for sad cases like you. Get a life and stop taking up our time.

 

[bghorn]

What would be the point of a high polish under a thick coating?

None. And if I remember correctly, I never asked for it. Just semi-normal finish like so many other knives have, including some coated knives by Ka-Bar. Why it doesn't matter for some but not the others?
Similarly, I could ask what's the point of coating on mostly all blades not meant for tactical use? There are at least as many cons as there are pros.

Among other things coatings-even cerakote (which is expensive, tricky to apply and very tough) needs something to adhere to.

How about no coating on what's mostly a utility knife?

Btw both of the Beckers I've stripped looked pretty good underneath.

Some are better than others. On mine, not only it's too rough, but grind has also a lot of waviness to it. And that's probably one of the reasons why thick coating is so popular these days.

 

[bghorn]

That you're not happy unless you're causing a disturbance of some kind.

Disturbance?. If you look in OKC forum, it was very legitimate question about very offset grind. A tad more picky person would return knife like this. I'm sure you would. I didn't. Because it didn't fail. And because fit and finish, as far as uniformity and smoothness of the grind goes, it's actually surprisingly good.

The Internet of course is ideal for sad cases like you. Get a life and stop taking up our time.

Cases like me? What exactly would that be? Having a different opinion?

Yes, I'm new poster, but hey, everyone started with a first post.

 

[NCSlice]

Its a conspiracy Hank

KaBars making millions, wait, BILLIONS of dollars by hiding cosmetic imperfections under a thick coating. Now it has spread industry wide! Even OKC is doing it!
MWAHAHAH!
MWAHAHAH!
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[bghorn]

I likem', I buyem'...
Don't likem'? Don't buyem'...

Already bought them.

I'm not sure of the point here or how it contributes to the forums.

Calling me a troll (or conspiracy theorist) is not exactly useful contribution either. Or is it?

I don't see the point of giving a mirror finish then coating over it.

Neither do I and I never asked for mirror finish. Again, not once did I mention mirror finish or polished blade for that mater.

No idea how a torque wrench converts to this but, ok...nice score,I guess?

It doesn't. That was the point. Torque wrench is more complex to manufacture and it takes twice the material too, it has far superior fit and finish but is priced comparably.
That was to your claim that improved finish would cost so much more and knife would not be affordable.

 

[ichor]

Cases like me? What exactly would that be? Having a different opinion?

Yes, I'm new poster, but hey, everyone started with a first post.

I LIKE different opinions! Everyone has a first post, but not all with the attitude that he is going to show all these old-timers how wrong they've been about Beckers all these years. On the BECKER forum, for crissakes!What's wrong with easing into a new group, who don't know you, or your knowledge of knives (or anything else for that matter), rather then your bull in a China shop approach. You're a complete stranger Why should we give any of your opinions any credibility whatsoever? Or listen to you at all, for that matter.

 

[NCSlice]

Calling me a troll (or conspiracy theorist) is not exactly useful contribution either. Or is it?

I didn't start the thread..

That was to your claim that improved finish would cost so much more and knife would not be affordable.

Yeah...I never said that...

 

[Noswad0208]

No, NC, this guy knows whats up. He even stabs bear crap.

 

[bghorn]

On the BECKER forum, for crissakes!

Apologies if I'm being obtuse, but where else should we discuss Becker knives?

What's wrong with easing into a new group,

Maybe because I'm old? Or maybe just because I don't like to beat around the bush for who knows how long just to have meaningful discussion about Becker knives on a Becker forum (of all places, go figure).

Or listen to you at all, for that matter.

You don't have to. I'm not trying to force you, or anything like that. There's so much on these forums I don't care about. I simply skip those threads.

 

[plue]

Yes a satin finish costs them money. Instead they leave it as is, apply coating, and prevent corrosion. You can strip and do a bit of sanding and you'll see grind marks, I think grind marks are awesome, they add character. Beckers are workhorse knives made and sold at a good price, and this is part of that. Why Busse does the same thing for a corrosion resistant steel sold at 5 times the price is beyond me, that's just being greedy.

 

[bghorn]

I didn't start the thread..

I was told it was off-topic in another thread and to start new thread.

No, NC, this guy knows whats up. He even stabs bear crap.

Actually I tried to be funny, but I guess, certain jokes don't translate well over the internet. My bad.

I'll try to be more specific next time.

 

[Murphnuge]

Started new thread to not go off topic...

Yeah, this worked out.


Seriously, for the money I don't see how anyone can complain about the fit and finish on a BK&T. The value of these blades is amazing.

 

[ichor]

Apologies if I'm being obtuse, but where else should we discuss Becker knives?



Maybe because I'm old? Or maybe just because I don't like to beat around the bush for who knows how long just to have meaningful discussion about Becker knives on a Becker forum (of all places, go figure).

You don't have to. I'm not trying to force you, or anything like that. There's so much on these forums I don't care about. I simply skip those threads.

Well. You ARE obtuse....it's time you faced it. Apologies don't help. I didn't mean you shouldn't discuss Becker on a Becker forum, genius. You shouldn't come to a Becker forum and immediately begin telling long time Becker owners that they are full of shit. I'm 69, I guess that's old , by some standards, , but being old shouldn't necessarily mean obtuse, or downright stupid, for that matter. Think about it.

 

[NJBillK]

What would be the point of a high polish under a thick coating? Among other things coatings-even cerakote (which is expensive, tricky to apply and very tough) needs something to adhere to.
Btw both of the Beckers I've stripped looked pretty good underneath.

I like how this is the fourth post, and you cherry pick a quote out of it, just for the sake of keeping this thread alive and kicking as opposed to seeing the (most likely) answer to your question...
Just for You, I put it in bold and underlined it.

Also please note, while I am fairly certain that they wouldn't lose much sleep over the cost involved in undertaking such a task. In todays competitive environment that is outdoor goods as a whole, a quality US made product is a good and (unfortunately) rare thing, and if it helps them edge out a chinese competitor by saving a few bucks on the processing of a blade, So what?!? Especially considering that they were likely not intending the grind marks to be seen by the end user until the coating has worn off (which goes back to the initial point of this post)
All the more power to them for realizing where they can actually save a penny and have the vast majority of their customer base not mind and borderline appreciate their approach to generating a cost efficient cutting tool.

Like it or not, there is your answer. If you would like a more refined finish on a blade, buy some sand paper, its cheap. Trust me, it isn't for the faint of heart or arm, I near mirror polished my bk2. Was it worth it, try it out for yourself and then get back to us.