Becker Skills and Information Thread 03 - December 2013 - Outdoor Cooking

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Alright folks, this time around we are going to cover outdoor cooking, which will lead to a short contest in the second half of January, then in February we will be back on track for our monthly stuff. Given Ethan's background as a chef, cooking has been a major part of what we do around here. Several of us are more than comfortable in a kitchen, and now it's time to apply that outdoors. For this months info thread, we are going to cover all the tips and tricks we can get on paper for outdoor cooking, from dehydrated mountain house meals (or making your own) to cooking with fresh items, even wild edibles you might find outdoors. I'll throw what I can in here, and hopefully others will contribute as well. Cookware, stoves, different methods, meals, etc... are all fair game, so let's hear your best ideas, tips, and tricks for making outdoors life more enjoyable through good, hearty meals!

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First off, we are covering this since we can do it in a relatively small timeframe, and the contest will run for only two weeks, getting us back to the regular monthly schedule.

That being said, share your cooking tips and info here, if you have anything to add, add it! We have a tremendous amount of skilled people in the area of cooking, and more than a few that are easily capable of speaking about outdoor cooking from years and years of experience. Pics as always are welcome!
 
when you pack eggs to go camping, crack them at home into ziplock baggies. Putting an egg carton on ice in a cooler = cracked eggs and mushy cardboard.
 
I thought this was really obvious, but I see many reviewers on the Esbit stove complaining that the tablets stop burning after 15 minutes or so and that that is not enough to boil a large amount of water. Why not feed extra twigs and small sticks into the fire? That's what I do...
Also, SAK's can do a lot of stuff for the small package they are. With regards to opening cans, I don't like the canopeners on them so I just cut the lid out with my 14, usually. Works A LOT faster. Finally: leaves of Dandelions = awesome salad, especially when finished with a few of their flowers.
 
I'm going to love this thread. A few thoughts...

Windscreens are worth carrying in many scenarios, whether you go with heavy duty aluminum foil or a thicker gauge of aluminum. Many types of stoves greatly increase their efficiency with a good windscreen.
HOWEVER, most canister stove manufacturers recommend that you do not use a windscreen because of the potential for trapped heat and an exploding canister. An exception is something like the Snow Peak Gigapower integrated windscreen, which diverts heat above/away from the canister. The Jetboil system also solves the windscreen problem with what is basically an integrated wind screen and heat foil.

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Also, a little bit of cooking oil (usually canola oil) in a travel bottle can go a long way toward a non-sticking meal if you're making bannock, corn bread, cobbler, etc. A better option, however, is to simply line your pan/pot/oven with foil and rub the cooking oil on the foil. Not perfect, but better in terms of non-stick and MUCH less cleanup.

I used to be a Mountain House fan, but even better are all the $1 pasta, rice, and mashed potato sides you can now buy at any grocery store and just add your own meat. Many of the meats now come in foil packets for lightweight carrying and easy opening.

I cut the Scotch-Brite scrub sponges into thirds and put a piece in my mess kits. Great for cleanup.

Honey straws (literally, honey stored in straws) elevate the hot tea experience on the trail.

The coffee and creamer sleeves are excellent for a quick hot drink at camp or on the trail.

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That's a few thoughts anyway.
 
Oh yeah, if you want the best outdoor chili you'll ever taste, get your butt to a Gathering and watch the master at work.

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If I am making a meal from a bunch of different things, I usually will pre-cut all the ingredients, and put them in little ziplock baggies. I also tend towards one pot meals versus multi-course fare.

Something else I learned is that while a tall, narrow titanium pot is great for boiling water and the like, it sucks for scrambling eggs. Best cooking container I have used thus far is my stainless steel MSR Stowaway 1 liter pot. It is wider and not that tall (although definitely tall enough) and it holds enough stuff for me (although I might go the next size up for two) and the handle folds up and locks the lid shut. Scrambled eggs in that are as easy as making them at home.
 
If I am making a meal from a bunch of different things, I usually will pre-cut all the ingredients, and put them in little ziplock baggies. I also tend towards one pot meals versus multi-course fare.

Something else I learned is that while a tall, narrow titanium pot is great for boiling water and the like, it sucks for scrambling eggs. Best cooking container I have used thus far is my stainless steel MSR Stowaway 1 liter pot. It is wider and not that tall (although definitely tall enough) and it holds enough stuff for me (although I might go the next size up for two) and the handle folds up and locks the lid shut. Scrambled eggs in that are as easy as making them at home.

Even though it would not be outdoor cooking but rather outdoor eating, I often make salads with some kind of noodles or pasta the day before the hike.
For cooking outdoors I really like those simple army messtins. They do the job just fine, imo.
 
This might be considered cheating and it is pretty basic stuff, but when i was in the scouts I would cook a few meals at home and then seal them in seal-a-meal bags. They were easy to pack and needed much less space and prep time to finish off at the campsite.. Along the same lines, I would make seasoning packets for meals that were made on site, that way i didn't have to take a lot of different bottles of spices with me.
 
I often like to pack dehydrated vegetables and bouillon to mix with meat and simmer an easy stew/soup up while you stoke the fire for evening. It's easy and hearty while leaving plenty of time for processing the fuel wood and other camp chores. Pro tip: dehydrated tomatoes are the greatest thing since sliced bread. they rock for stew and make suitable snacking fodder when dry enough.

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Udon, somen or soba are great additions and very filling for their space as they are smaller per serving than the typical ramen noodle package. they cook up about as quick, just add broth and garnish (and by garnish, I mean dead animal).

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There's nothing like a hot meal outdoors once the chill hits the air.
 
heavy duty foil is my friend.
as are potatoes, onions, and hard salami or summer sausage for trail food. (dice all 3, pour into a pocket made of foil, roll the top and grill)
peanut butter and cheese are also trail staples along with homemade trail mix (mixed nuts, diced dried fruit, and dark chocolate m&m's)
Tortillas rather than traditional bread -- doesn't smash, flat so they pack easy, and double as a plate or food scoop.
 
this summer my wife made a batch of spaghetti sauce at home and froze it in a ziploc. used it for an ice pack until dinner time a few days later. heated it in the spag water while it boiled. just keep it off the bottom of the pot, or you'll end up with saucy water. otherwise, it worked out great.

empty peanut butter jars work well for dog food, depending on the size of your dog and the length of your trip.
 
Cool thread - looking forward to seeing other examples. This is one area I have very little experience with, so it's nice to see the tips and tricks, as well as recommended recipes.
 
I may as well toss in a few cents worth of ideas....

My outdoor cooking skills were learned from my dad and from Boy Scouts while I was growing up in the boondocks about an hour southwest of St. Louis. I grew up thinking that barbeque meant grilling meat. It wasn't until many years later that I learned the difference between grilling, barbequing, and smoking. All of our grilling was done on oak logs since there were plenty in the woods around us (12 acres of red cedar and various oaks), and two teenage boys that could "man" each side of a two-man crosscut saw. After we headed off to college, my dad bought a chainsaw...

My theory has been that you can cook most of the things you cook in your kitchen outdoors with the proper equipment and/or preparation. If you are backpacking or canoeing and have to travel light, then quick cooking (dehydrated) or no cook meals (crackers, meat, cheese, trail mix) are good, but otherwise you should eat just like you do at home. Maybe better.... When I was a Boy Scout, many of the weekend camping trips were of the car-camping variety, so we had coolers and could take fresh food. The adult troop leaders took turns eating with the different patrols, and they always preferred my patrol to eat with since the chow was always good. While others were satisfied with canned beans and franks, we were grilling pork steaks or cooking a beef chuck roast with veggies in a Dutch oven. We often did a cobbler for desert as well. Instead of bologna sandwiches, we'd do BLTs for lunch (cook extra bacon at breakfast to save time at lunch).

Since I mentioned pork steaks (not chops), I never realized that that was a St. Louis kind of thing. Everywhere else seems to serve chops, but we always loved thin cut (1/2" thick from memory) pork steaks cut from the shoulder (blade or "butt" steaks). When almost cooked, the classic sweet and sticky tomato-based sauce was brushed on and caramelized on both sides. Kind of like pulled pork, but could be grilled since it was so thin and cut across the grain. That is some good eatin' with baked beans and cole slaw.

Now that I've been down memory lane, some tips that may help:

If you are car-camping for a few days, you can freeze your meat that you'll use the last day or two so that it lasts longer in the cooler.

One pot meals are good. Even better are crock pot meals that you can cook in a Dutch oven. You can start dinner at lunch time and add charcoal every hour or so during the afternoon.

You can bake almost anything in a Dutch oven that can be baked in your kitchen at home. The internet is full of recipes.

Don't scrimp on herbs and spices. There is more to life than salt and pepper. Good seasoning makes the difference between "ehhh, okay" and "wow!".

I learned a good technique for Dutch ovens while I was stationed in Korea and volunteered with a US Boy Scout troop in Seoul. They didn't have fire pits or any other place to safely put the Dutch ovens on the ground. Since the goal was to "leave no trace", they used a commercial half sheet pan (I bought some at Sam's Club when I got back). They set the sheet pan on the ground, filled it with dirt or sand then put the coals and Dutch oven on the dirt/sand. When they were done, they would dig a small hole to bury the ash and dirt and hadn't created a charred spot on the ground. I've found it also makes it easier for us, ahem, "older" folk to work on the food if you put the pan up on a table so it's waist high. Way easier on the back that all that bending to change the coals and check the food. Here is a shot of my vintage (my dad bought it about 40 years ago) Dutch oven and the appropriately sized sheet pan. I didn't bother to fill the pan with dirt, so use your imaginations.



If my rambling hasn't been helpful, I hope it was at least entertaining.
 
I think the key is to relax and have some fun. It doesn't have to be high tech. The opportunities are endless. From a Jet boil to a pig in the ground.

Here is a turkey I did for Thanksgiving a few years back.

Dig a hole,



Build a fire,



Wrap your Turkey in cheese cloth and then some heavy duty foil. I built a rack out of some old fence wire and re-bar to lower the bird and help me get it back out when done.



Drag about two thirds of your fire in to the hole. Lower the bird into the hole. Drag the rest of your fire into the hole on top of your bird.



Cover up with dirt. And relax for four hours.



When it's time, dig it up, and pull it out,


Nice and moist, no fuss no muss,
 
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Start out slow, a knife and a fire,
Beer and Tomahawk optional,



Not much beats meat on a stick,



Or elk over a wood fire,



You don't really need to buy much if anything and what you do buy will last many years or a lifetime if treated properly.


I highly recommend a sturdy grill and a good perk coffee pot with metal handle and glass top. Mine is a 14 cup pot from Cabelas. It yields about six real cups. It is my only coffee pot. I use it indors and out. Not much beats a fresh pot of coffee perked outdoors on a brisk fall morning.


It works on any heat source. Three days before Christmas we had an ice storm. The electric went off three minutes into a nine minute perk around six am. I went to the shed got my camp stove and finished my coffee. Ice storms and power outages seem easier to deal with with a fresh pot of coffee at hand.
 
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I may as well toss in a few cents worth of ideas....

I learned a good technique for Dutch ovens while I was stationed in Korea and volunteered with a US Boy Scout troop in Seoul. They didn't have fire pits or any other place to safely put the Dutch ovens on the ground. Since the goal was to "leave no trace", they used a commercial half sheet pan (I bought some at Sam's Club when I got back). They set the sheet pan on the ground, filled it with dirt or sand then put the coals and Dutch oven on the dirt/sand. When they were done, they would dig a small hole to bury the ash and dirt and hadn't created a charred spot on the ground. I've found it also makes it easier for us, ahem, "older" folk to work on the food if you put the pan up on a table so it's waist high. Way easier on the back that all that bending to change the coals and check the food. Here is a shot of my vintage (my dad bought it about 40 years ago) Dutch oven and the appropriately sized sheet pan. I didn't bother to fill the pan with dirt, so use your imaginations.



If my rambling hasn't been helpful, I hope it was at least entertaining.

I used to do a lot of historical reenactment/rendezvous events and a lot of these were in "no ground fire" locations -- the variation to this that we did was to take a 26" wok, suspend it off the ground with 3 12" garden spikes, and line it with dirt or kitty litter - then build the fire in the pan. Worked the same way and made clean-up at the end of the weekend dead simple.
 
For you campers or hikers out there who like pasta or Ramen. No fire, No stove, No pot needed. Actually this isn't technically cooking, but it could be a hearty meal. A trick I learned while in the Infantry

1. Put the Ramen and or pasta, seasoning (I do not recommend using tomato/spaghetti sauce, that would have to be added in later) and all in a good quality Ziploc bag
2. Add just enough water into the Ziploc to get the Ramen/pasta good and wet. Don't fill the whole bag with water, you won't need all that much, maybe a 1/3 of the way full after you added the Ramen/pasta of course.
3. Stick the bag in your cargo pocket or inside your pack. In a few hours when your ready to eat, the pasta is soft enough to require way less cooking time, and/or the Ramen, well it should be ready to eat right then....straight from the bag.
4. A warming trick for the ramen/pasta here: The bag in the cargo pocket will allow your body heat to warm the bag a bit as your movement and the hours progress. If you don't want to put it in the pocket, find a space inside your backpack that is next to the body, and your body heat as it is transferred to the pack, will warm the bag a bit. Keep in mind that warming it this way won't make it hot, or, depending on the weather and what you wear or how long you move and generate heat it may not warm the bag to satisfaction or at all, but, it will be better than cold. Warming really is hit and miss, but it's always worth a shot.
5. I would not recommend leaving the Ramen or pasta like this overnight, about 2 to three hours at the most depending on outside temp.

I showed this trick to my 14 year old and you can guess what she does nearly every morning when we camp, yep, she preps her lunch. Every camping trip she will whittle her own chopsticks out of small tree/bush limbs to go with the Ramen.
 
Hey,

Just a thought for you West By God Virginians and Tennesseans,

Outdoor cooking contests in January present some unique challenes for us carpet bagging Yankees. Mainly close to 3 feet of snow, and seven straight days below zero. Not impossible just interesting.

Heck it was 17 degrees when I did the breakfast challange in November. I think we should get a bonus point for snow on the ground, and another bonus point if it is below zero, heck last night my Vodka was starting to get slushy.

But we understand it will be better for you guys, not many bugs and no 106 degrees with associated humidity. So we will deal with it.

I wouldn't be whining if we had just snow. But we have had a series of snow followed by ice. And it looks like we will remain in that pattern for the foreseeable future. It was -16 last night, warmed up to zero now. Right now our snow depth is a over two and a half feet and I can stay on top of it without snowshoes. Most of the time. Every now and then you punch through. The other issue is there is about 3" of fresh powder on top from the last few days so you can't see the holes. And it rests on top of some serious ice. Rather interesting getting around. Even the dogs is sliding all over, and he has four wheel drive.

I feel real bad for the critters. They are looking at a real hard winter. I can barely punch through this crust with a stick.
Worst I have seen it in a very long time, maybe ever. Couple that with -10 to -30 temps and twenty to thirty mile per hour winds and it keeps you on your toes.

On the up side, no problem keeping beer cold!

Adapt, Evolve, Overcome,

Maybe I'll make ice cream,

Whine off,

Carry on,
 
Dutch oven Monkey Bread

1. Quarter up some canned biscuits (or make up your own recipe).
2. Toss the quarters in a bag of some sort with some cinnamon and sugar to coat the quarters real good.
3. Toss the quarters in the dutch oven haphazardly (no need for neatness here).
4. Melt a stick of butter and then pour it over the top of the quarters (coating them liberally).
5. Cook em until the quarters are done (probably about 20 or 30 minutes).
6. Eat em right out of the oven, breaking them apart as you devour them.

Awesome snack with late night beers around the fire. I aint kiddin' neither!
 
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