Beckers and coyotes round 2, caught two in one day again.

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Dad has been experimenting with foot traps lately. We usually snare them but they've started to get wise to most of our good snare holes, so we had to try something new. After a few weeks of catching nothing but a few big coons, it finally paid off. Two in one day.

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They won't be killing any more sheep!
 
Now they are good coyotes.

Coyotes are primarily nocturnal, but will adapt to day time foraging, depending on food sources. Many dogs and cats in cities become meals for urban coyotes, where they operate nocturnally. Here in the boonies, they kill dogs, cats, sheep, goats, calves and foals. They snag free range chickens and pets during the day. Had a neighbor loose one of her Yorkies off the back porch in broad daylight.

If coyotes restricted themselves to their traditional diet of rabbits, possums, raccoons, ground squirrels, mice, rats, insects and snakes, I'd have no problem with them. As it is, I shoot them on sight, even if it means giving up a shot at a good deer during deer season.
 
And they have pretty good pelts. Given their adaptation to the more urban areas I would think more and more would see the solution and not have a problem using them as REAL FUR accents to coats, gloves, etc...

Much - Much better than the faux fur (petrochemical) accents that pass as expensive fashion today


Their use and removal would be a profitable public service [ Social Justice!! ] in the name of Quality Fashion - with American made products !!

Win - Win - Win - Win !


Great Catch BYW!! :)



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Nice catch. They've become a problem here in SW FL too. I used to hunt fox in NE for the pelts. We used them to make certain fly patterns for fly fishing. I'm betting coyote fur would work in a similar manner.
 
Is their population getting out of hand or something? Are they missing their traditional natural predators? Don't get me wrong... I am just asking. Here in Spain, with the almost extinction of the wolves, they wild pigs are out of controll. They thrash the crops, farms and such, and hunters do their best to keep their population controlled. I don't hunt, but I do spearfish. However unless they are latear eaten, I find hard to justify the killing of animals just because... in this case, the coyotes!

Someone care to elaborate?

Mikel
 
Coyotes are predators. They eat pets, livestock and carry diseases. They are a rather smart, adaptive weed - and without a lot of natural predators will and are getting out of hand. They are now even being found in large cities - like Los Angeles

And I agree - its a waste to just kill them. but it seems like the precious snowflakes are against using [any] animal fur for such things like accenting their clothing - while they parade around in their LEATHER shoes......
 
Coyotes are predators. They eat pets, livestock and carry diseases. They are a rather smart, adaptive weed - and without a lot of natural predators will and are getting out of hand. They are now even being found in large cities - like Los Angeles

And I agree - its a waste to just kill them. but it seems like the precious snowflakes are against using [any] animal fur for such things like accenting their clothing - while they parade around in their LEATHER shoes......

Studies have proven that they are successful even in established wolf territory......
the wolves try to catch/kill the yokes on sight.....and they breed in higher numbers more frequently with heavy predation
Wolves hate them as much as farmers......who wants their skinny redheaded 2cd cousin always coming around and eating food
Wether it is human or natural predation the coyotes population remains strong
I grew up trapping and shooting them, tanned the hides for the Hudson Bay Company
 
They will attack and eat anything smaller than themselves on an individual basis and pack hunt calves, sheep and goats. Their only real predators are the wolf and mountain lion.

As the population of these two pinnacle predators has declined, the coyote population has proliferated and expanded out of its natural territories.

Overall, the number of human attacks by coyotes is relatively small and are MOSTLY in southern California in areas of urban/wildland interface.

Coyote attacks on humans by period (These are confirmed coyote attacks. Some attacks may have been reported as wild dog attacks.)

A report came out in 2009 that documented 142 coyote attacks on 159 humans from 1960 to 2006 across the United States and Canada. Some sites report over 160 attack between 1960 and 2006. The study only looked at the attacks that had witnessed evidence.

Some specific attack data by periods -

1988 to 1997 -- 41
1998 to 2003 -- 48

Last summer (August 2016), LA County closed Montebello park due to numerous coyote attacks on people in the park.

There have only been 2 documented cases of humans being killed by coyotes since 1960. However, a report in 2005 by National Geographic reported than an estimated 35 attacks on children could have been fatal had an adult not been able to intervene in the attacks. Over half of all predatory type attacks are on small children, with what are called "investigatory attacks" predominately being made on adults.

A 2007 report out of Austin Tx indicated that over a 27 month period (Dec 2004 to Mar 2007), reports of "bold or aggressive behavior" by coyotes decreased by 3.5% and was attributed to an aggressive implementation of an urban coyote management program. The program was started in January 2005 because of the increasing frequency of reports of bold/aggressive behavior by coyotes towards humans and the loss of pets to coyote predation. During the 27 month period, there was 1 unprovoked attack on a human, 30 attacks on pets while on a leash or near their owners in parks, 11 reports of coyote activity in school playgrounds during school hours and 2 reports of aggressive behavior towards humans.

Many ranchers have lost calves, sheep and goats to coyotes, often in broad daylight. In 1 instance, my brother had a calf killed less than 50 yards from his house one morning in the time it took to walk back into the kitchen, get a second cup of coffee and come back out on his patio. Our outdoors "barn cats", kept around to keep the mouse and rat population under control, seldom make it beyond 2 years before "disappearing".

I installed 6 foot high "anti-coyote fencing" around the house and out buildings, partially in response to encountering coyotes in the back yard.
 
Congrats guys!

I was opposed to hunting/trapping coyotes for a while. I feel that predators do what predators do. By no fault of their own, they are successful at killing and eating because Mother Nature taught them how.

That being said I do feel that, at least in my area the population needs to be managed. On any given night we can hear them yipping around the house. I even got video of a big one at mid day on a trail camera about 100 yards from where I plan to build a house on our new property.

I have recently bought an electronic caller, hand calls, and a decoy so that I can go to the property and attempt to thin their numbers or at least establish a "danger zone" of sorts around our property so that when we are living there our future livestock are safer.

I plan on tanning the hides and disposing of the rest of the carcass deep in the woods for the rest of the critters to capitalize on.

It will be sort of bittersweet for me but I feel it is for the greater good of my property.

We also have foxes, both gray and red, as well as bobcats that show up on the trail camera. I want to make a wall hanging with a coyote, fox, and bobcat pelts to display in my new house.

Jeremy
 
Good job on trapping the dogs. Even when we (Americans) were allowed to poison them we could barely slow down their population growth. I spent many early mornings watching the sunrise over the Sonoran desert while blowing a caller, coaxing them into 12 gauge range. It can be a very exciting hunt.
 
Now they are good coyotes.

Coyotes are primarily nocturnal, but will adapt to day time foraging, depending on food sources. Many dogs and cats in cities become meals for urban coyotes, where they operate nocturnally. Here in the boonies, they kill dogs, cats, sheep, goats, calves and foals. They snag free range chickens and pets during the day. Had a neighbor loose one of her Yorkies off the back porch in broad daylight.

If coyotes restricted themselves to their traditional diet of rabbits, possums, raccoons, ground squirrels, mice, rats, insects and snakes, I'd have no problem with them. As it is, I shoot them on sight, even if it means giving up a shot at a good deer during deer season.

Most around here kill just before sunrise, but we have had a couple kills in the day.

And they have pretty good pelts. Given their adaptation to the more urban areas I would think more and more would see the solution and not have a problem using them as REAL FUR accents to coats, gloves, etc...

Much - Much better than the faux fur (petrochemical) accents that pass as expensive fashion today


Their use and removal would be a profitable public service [ Social Justice!! ] in the name of Quality Fashion - with American made products !!

Win - Win - Win - Win !


Great Catch BYW!! :)



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We don't use the pelts that often, and if we do it's just for something to lay over the back of a couch. They stink too bad to skin and the 30 bucks we could make for one isn't worth the long skinning process (their skin is insanely hard to pull off, you have to cut nearly everything).

Thanks!

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Another good coyote for your viewing pleasure.

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Nice catch. They've become a problem here in SW FL too. I used to hunt fox in NE for the pelts. We used them to make certain fly patterns for fly fishing. I'm betting coyote fur would work in a similar manner.

Thanks. I'm not a fly fisher so I haven't tried that, but I imagine it would work too.

Is their population getting out of hand or something? Are they missing their traditional natural predators? Don't get me wrong... I am just asking. Here in Spain, with the almost extinction of the wolves, they wild pigs are out of controll. They thrash the crops, farms and such, and hunters do their best to keep their population controlled. I don't hunt, but I do spearfish. However unless they are latear eaten, I find hard to justify the killing of animals just because... in this case, the coyotes!

Someone care to elaborate?

Mikel

They take 90-150 dollar paychecks out of our lambs almost every night. They don't eat more than a tongue 90% of the time. They only really have one natural predator in Virginia as we have no wolves or mountain lions (there's a can of worms :rolleyes:), and that is humans. If we see one we kill it and that's just as natural as them killing a lamb or a deer whenever they feel like it.

Congrats guys!

I was opposed to hunting/trapping coyotes for a while. I feel that predators do what predators do. By no fault of their own, they are successful at killing and eating because Mother Nature taught them how.

That being said I do feel that, at least in my area the population needs to be managed. On any given night we can hear them yipping around the house. I even got video of a big one at mid day on a trail camera about 100 yards from where I plan to build a house on our new property.

I have recently bought an electronic caller, hand calls, and a decoy so that I can go to the property and attempt to thin their numbers or at least establish a "danger zone" of sorts around our property so that when we are living there our future livestock are safer.

I plan on tanning the hides and disposing of the rest of the carcass deep in the woods for the rest of the critters to capitalize on.

It will be sort of bittersweet for me but I feel it is for the greater good of my property.

We also have foxes, both gray and red, as well as bobcats that show up on the trail camera. I want to make a wall hanging with a coyote, fox, and bobcat pelts to display in my new house.

Jeremy

Thanks Jeremy.

I grew up killing them and I plan on keeping on as long as I'm able. I agree with you to some extent, but I consider our claim to the land and livestock stronger than the coyotes, and at this point it's either defend a major source of income or let coyotes destroy it because it's what they do.

Humans have been around since the beginning of time (there's another can of worms, but it's what I believe) and we've been hunting since we were able to, so that makes us natural predators too. We don't have claws and sharp teeth to hunt with so we substitute with guns, but we are here just as naturally as anything else.

Sadly I don't think you'll be able to get a danger zone going. My dad has killed them since they first came here in the 90's and they are still coming. Only in the past couple years have we had less lamb kills, but that's only because when one would start killing we doubled the efforts to trap or shoot it.

Good job on trapping the dogs. Even when we (Americans) were allowed to poison them we could barely slow down their population growth. I spent many early mornings watching the sunrise over the Sonoran desert while blowing a caller, coaxing them into 12 gauge range. It can be a very exciting hunt.

Thanks. Maybe no poison is a state law? Here in VA a federal trapper comes and puts out M44 poison traps for us.
 
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That being said I do feel that, at least in my area the population needs to be managed. On any given night we can hear them yipping around the house. I even got video of a big one at mid day on a trail camera about 100 yards from where I plan to build a house on our new property.

I have recently bought an electronic caller, hand calls, and a decoy so that I can go to the property and attempt to thin their numbers or at least establish a "danger zone" of sorts around our property so that when we are living there our future livestock are safer.

...snip...We also have foxes, both gray and red, as well as bobcats that show up on the trail camera. I want to make a wall hanging with a coyote, fox, and bobcat pelts to display in my new house.

Jeremy


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Sadly I don't think you'll be able to get a danger zone going. My dad has killed them since they first came here in the 90's and they are still coming. Only in the past couple years have we had less lamb kills, but that's only because when one would start killing we doubled the efforts to trap or shoot it.

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You will scare off the pack that the ones you kill belong to, then another pack will move in. Rinse and repeat.:grumpy:

On any given night, I can step out side and heard 5 to 9 distinctive packs singing, anywhere from a couple of hundred yards away in "Pasture X" to however far their howls travel.

Our neighbor lost a calf the other night, either to coyotes (most likely) or just possibly a cougar, since one has been sighted in the area a month ago, although cougars roam more extensively. You see one today and maybe won't see the same one until next month as their individual territories are 50 to 300 square miles, depending on water and prey conditions, and whether the cougar is male or female. Female territories will be smaller and a male's territory may overlap 3 or 4 females' territory. Males that invade another male's territory will kill any kittens they encounter.

Coyotes will also kill foxes and young bobcats, both for food and to eliminate the predator competition. Coyotes steer clear of adult bobcats and cougars.
 
You will scare off the pack that the ones you kill belong to, then another pack will move in. Rinse and repeat.:grumpy:

On any given night, I can step out side and heard 5 to 9 distinctive packs singing, anywhere from a couple of hundred yards away in "Pasture X" to however far their howls travel.

Our neighbor lost a calf the other night, either to coyotes (most likely) or just possibly a cougar, since one has been sighted in the area a month ago, although cougars roam more extensively. You see one today and maybe won't see the same one until next month as their individual territories are 50 to 300 square miles, depending on water and prey conditions, and whether the cougar is male or female. Female territories will be smaller and a male's territory may overlap 3 or 4 females' territory. Males that invade another male's territory will kill any kittens they encounter.

Coyotes will also kill foxes and young bobcats, both for food and to eliminate the predator competition. Coyotes steer clear of adult bobcats and cougars.

The ones here usually stay out of the cattle, which seems odd since the ones here are bigger than the ones out west. We've had MAYBE 1 or 2 calves killed by coyotes in the past 20 or so years, and if we did I don't remember them. Bears are another story. One tore up the herd several years ago.
 
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