beginer ordering custom 110 quetion on rivets

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Hello, I have been hit with Buck fever like crazy. Don't have a collection like most of ya'll and have only been pursuing current production models but have a version of most of the fixed and folding blades that are USA made along with a few of the web special 110s, 112s and 500s. And just ordered a the full kitchen set as one of the anniversary gifts for my wife. So the important part is no matter what the occassion there's Buck on me.

My favorites are the 532 Giraffe, 112 Elk and the 500 Water Buffalo that I choose to carry each day. I prefer models that are a little nicer then would find in a blister pack on the shelf yet still don't have to shy away from using. So have been looking at more of the web specials and limited editions and then started playing with the custom build on Buck's website and thought why not just build a couple just for me, one a looker and one a worker.

Am looking at doing a 110 w/ mirror 420HC, Nickel bolsters and Asian Waterbuffalo for the looker and a 110 w/S30v, Nickel bolsters and Fuji Orangewood for the worker.

Being new to this I have no idea on the rivets. Do they serve a mechanical function to keep the scales on in addtion to any adhesive or are they mainly cosmetic?

thanks for any help
 
This question comes up every now and then. I think a typical answer would be that the adhesive is stronger than the rivets so you can choose either way and feel good about it. I've yet to have a scale fall of and I have plenty of each (riveted/not riveted) that see frequent use. Sounds like you have good tastes by the knives listed above. Welcome to the addiction.
 
Wing,

I decided to put stag on a CS112 in cherry and rivets. It was glued as well. Don't know if thats usual but that one. You should call and ask Liz or Joe H.
 
Welcome, Wings.Tony, Should know.I've seen his 110 custom w/ routed buffalo scales and its handsome.He even got it w/ serrations.I agree the glue is stronger. The only thing the pins do is give it a different look.I don't think they help the grip much.So, good luck and let us know which you choose.DM
 
Hey guys, thanks a ton. Had assumed (yeah, i know) that the rivets were in addition to the adhesive so would thus be even more secure. I prefer the look without and haven't had any issues with mine either way so will probably go the no rivet route.

Appreciate all the feedback I've gotten from ya'll in my short time here. Has definately gotten me on the path towards a collection.

Take care
 
I like the rivets on some of them, don't on others. Really personal choice, I don't think they have that large of a function these days.

You should look at the for sale thread now. Flatlander has some nice stuff out there for sale. DM is getting hard to find!
 
Yeah, Rivets are a personal preference. I order mine without.

One reference I found is about a rare third version (1966-1970) 110 not having rivets. So no rivets, isn't really an issue. Have never heard of any 110 scales just falling off



You will love that fiji orange wood. I didn't know at first, but this one has grown on me. It was going to be a BG42 user until BG42 went away. So it never got used and went back into the big toy box.
 
There is one obscure property of bone, antler, and tusk scales you might want to keep in mind, regarding glue...these materials will warp under certain circumstances, especially in extra arid or humid conditions...the glue holds so well that the contracting/expanding scale will warp the liner in a "bow" shape...

I have a set of bone 110 scales from a custom knife with a busted blade that I took apart...they sat for a while, and warped...now I'm afraid to put them back together, worried that the bone might snap... :(

The newer (current) production 110's (like K-Mart or Wal-Mart) don't use any glue...the laminated/impregnated wooden scales are only riveted...

Now, the *older* 110's...have glue that just *won't* let go... :D
 
thanks again for all the suggestions. trust me, i've been looking over all those Bucks for sale on the board! being a rookie to all this i definately remember getting burned the first few times i bought some custom firearms so stuck with the new production one's until i got a better feel for them.

not near the point of knowledge like most on here with all the BG42 terms and different model variations so will just step in the water rather then diving in like I've done so many other times!

seeing all the special models that are out there is what got me to jump from what i was buying over the counter to what was on the web specials. and that has now got me wanting to do something even more unique to me.

don't have the skills/knowledge to do the great things i've seen ya'll do with the different scales/blades etc..so i'll just try and do it with the keyboard and order something soon.

thanks again, before coming across this board i just had my 2 old 110s, a 450 protege and a 184 that were just tools to me. never knew how these same tools could also be works of art. very cool
 
You keep at it and you'll get there quick.
It won't take you long to know who on this board are great sources of info.
Good news is they freely share what they now.
 
Flatlander1963 said:
It won't take you long to know who on this board are great sources of info.
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Wait!...Let me get comfortable before you go any further... :D

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Hey Wings..welcome to a pretty lively discussion and a great group of very helpful people.

A quick point on rivets...they do provide some "shear" protection against an impact to the inlay which might shatter the glue connection. Porous material like bone not so much as sealed materials like the impregnated birch...On the bad side if shrinkage in the inlay takes place against the anchor of a rivet sometime it will cause a crack.

On just the looks...Rivets could limit your ability of marking on the handle like scrimshaw etc...but sometimes they serve as almost a decoration breaking up a big bland handle
 
thanks again guys, really helpful. on a side note, the info you guys provide and then even CJ jumping in to help is really what has got me jumping in. No doubt I am very pleased with the quality and all of the knives but the support from the company has been great. Each time I've considered one of the web specials Susan at Buck has taken the time to go over the things that make each unique to help me decide if it's what I want and then followed up to make sure I am happy with it.

Would not have expected that level of service from a production knife. Even my wife now is pointing out ones she thinks are "nice" (hence the kitchen set I bought for her) and after watching the Buck DVD suggested on our next trip out west we should arrange our route to go to the factory. And that is soley based upon the level of service and support she's seen.

thanks again
 
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