Recommendation? Belt grinder needed

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Hey guys, new here. I have made a few knives in other shops but I have been acquiring tools needed for my own setup and I need recommendations on a nice belt grinder.

I guess a 2x72 since that seems to be popular and I have a budget of around $1000, i can go higher if needed. Obviously something with a lot of value for the money would be nice, and USA made would be a plus. I'm not really wanting to buy used either.

Let me know what's out there. Thanks.
 
https://traviswuertz.com/
best of the best in my opinion.

Of course it is over triple your budget.

Would agree with Glenn here, it's the machine I purchased. Buy once - cry once. I've been able to afford a mill but I'm holding out for the same reason. The TW-90 is FAR outmatching my skill level and it could honestly take me a lifetime to master it completely. Do a search here on the bar, multiple budget options - especially if you can locate a motor scrapped
 
I would get the economy one from north ridge tool probably if I were just starting out, or their premium model if I had the $$
 
This TW-90 has to be a little overpriced right? I don't mind paying for quality, but $3700 for a belt grinder?
 
This TW-90 has to be a little overpriced right? I don't mind paying for quality, but $3700 for a belt grinder?

It's def on the pricier side of grinders, but there are a handful of other full featured grinders in the same ballpark as well. Couple things to take note of on why your going to see sticker shock on most grinders


1. The higher price ones come with a lot of the tool rests, wheels and accessories those cheaper ones don't come with. Also Variable Frequency drive, all lot of the cheapies don't got it, and trust me, you want it. Just this type of stuff adds $500-1k to your grinders end cost.

2. Knifemaking may be going through a resurgence, but it's still not a huge market. I'd be shocked if any grinder maker is selling more than 1k units a year. e.g. small production runs which always amounts to increased prices to make it profitable to make in the first place. In the TW90's case, i'd wager travis is selling a couple hundred grinders a year at most and that may be overestimating even.

3. Parts, Materials, labor, taxes etc etc. Cost on a quality motor and VFD like on the Tw90 alone account for a lot of the price. just the KBAC 27D is what $360, add in the motor, there's another $400-500. That's like 25% of the price right there. add the frame, tooling arms, all the balanced wheels, bearings, platens, paint job, packaging, and i'd figure the cost for him to make it is somewhere in the $1500-2500 range depending on how many hours of labor are involved on his end. On top of all that, add in advertising/marketing, web hosting, biz license, taxes, cost of the production facility itself, all of the tools and machines needed to make these grinders, and that $1500-$2500 has moved up a lot. I'd put money on Travis making at most $600-900 profit off each grinder when all is said and done.

Full Disclosure i've been a TW90 owner for 5 years, and wouldn't trade it for any other grinder in all honesty. Well ok, maybe the Northridge. I've only used it once but it performed on par with the TW90 i think. And that one costs $3,300 for reference. you really do get what your payin for with these top tier grinders. It may not seem like it, but you notice it quickly after goin to a buddies shop and working on their no weld home made grinder, or their Grizzly 2x72, ebay bought chassis, or, or or.... Now that's not to say you can't make good knives without one either though. I know many a mastersmith who still use their home made grinders, KMG's, etc and do just fine . But i know MANY more who use a TW90 or equivalent grinder and swear by it as it just makes the tasks at hand easier to take on and results in a finer fit and finish in the end.
 
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Take a look at the Reeder Grinder. It works as well as a TW-90. You can get a basic kit with the chassis and arms and wheels and add a motor and VFD or just about what you have budgeted. Basic kit with everything you need to get started is $800 (add your own motor and VFD for around $300-400)), plug and play with 1HP and VFD is $1700. They sell a killer ultimate package for $3300
 
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This TW-90 has to be a little overpriced right? I don't mind paying for quality, but $3700 for a belt grinder?
My big grinder was $4500. $3700 Is by no means overpriced. You need to consider the quality of the components going in.

To the OP I wouldn't consider a grinder that doesn't have direct drive, variable speed and ratcheting belt tension.
 
My Hardcore grinder was about $3700 with some attachments. It’s a well thought out and well executed grinder.

I believe they make some of the components for the tw-90
 
Another point about buying top level is how tiring the machine is to use. I have a Hardcore Products Grinder and I can run it for 4-5 hours 3-5 days a week or more. I bought a KMG, I used it for the same amount of time and was tired, sore from added vibration ... Pay more and it will be comfortable for extended use.
 
I went with a basic Reeder with 2 HP motor and VFD. Since most of my work is sharpening it has plenty of power. If you can source a motor you might get into a basic grinder for much less than the usual price. Good luck in your search...
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I got some research to do and more questions after the research I'm sure.
 
Reeder make all sorts of accessories, and it takes standard tooling arms and wheels. They make a really good mobile base for the grinder, too.
 
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Hey guys, new here. I have made a few knives in other shops but I have been acquiring tools needed for my own setup and I need recommendations on a nice belt grinder.

I guess a 2x72 since that seems to be popular and I have a budget of around $1000, i can go higher if needed. Obviously something with a lot of value for the money would be nice, and USA made would be a plus. I'm not really wanting to buy used either.

Let me know what's out there. Thanks.
Pheer 454 best bargain for the working man. Save up and get the VFD too.
 
Iron Creek Forge has the best bang for your buck on the market right now in my opinion. For about 2k you get one heck of a machine.
 
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