Belt knife shoot-out-- Featuring BK16. Photo heavy.

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As I arrived back from the Spring Gathering, I found myself with two more blades, the Bk16 from Ethan, and a Custom from Matt Tackett. This morning I decided to go out and do a proper shootout.

The contestants were the BK16 with a striped and convexed blade- An ESEE 4 with liners and I striped and convexed blade - and a Custom Scandi from Matt Tackett, with Jade green G-10 scales.

The test were thus: (in order) Handle comfort, Chopping, cross-grain batoning, with-grain batoning, feathersticking, carving, and edge retention/ ease of sharpening.

Group shot:
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First Test: Handle comfort

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The pics don't say much, but I do.

The Bk16 feels the best in my hand, very, very, closely followed be the Tackett, and then the EsE 4.

Second: Chopping (I like my blades to get a chance to get dull before I de carving)

The test was a Poplar sapling, about 2.5" in diameter. Counting the strikes
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First strike, BK16:
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First 40:
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First 100:
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Aaaaaand done! At 153:
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First strike E 4 (well, second but the first wouldn't stick :D)
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First 40:
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First 100:
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Aaaand done! At 152!!!! :eek:
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First 3 strikes (first two didn't stick)
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40:
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Aaaand done!!! at an astounding 121!!
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That was a very interesting test. The ESEE 4 has more weight to it than the 16, but there's nothing to grab with the 4. The Tackett usually isn't very good for me because the scandi doesn't want to bite deep.

Winner: Tackett, the 16 coming in second, and the 4 in last, the 16 is much more comfortable.

Third: Cross-grain Batoning.

First whack for Tackett:
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12th:
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Aaaaand done! At thirty.
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First whack, 16:
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12:
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Aaaand done! At 18!!
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First whack, ESEE 4:
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12th:
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Aaaand done!! 21 whacks of the batton.
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The Tackett was at a disadvantage because the scandi didn't want to sink in as well as the FFG 4 and 16. The 16 did better than the ESEE because of thinner stock me thinks.

The 16 wins this, if I was doing this a lot, I'd pick the 4, tougher.


Fourth: Battoning

No in-progress picks.

Done with ESEE 4:
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Done with 16:
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The Tackett:
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The 4 took two whacks a piece, the 16 took two whacks a piece, and the Tackett took two whacks a piece.

If I was doing this a LOT, I'd pick the 4, toughest. They all did just fine though.

Five: Feathersticking/ carving.

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The wood I was using was wet-ish poplar, not very good for feathers, but easy to bite into.

ESEE 4 feathers:
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4 shavings, as deep as I could make them:
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16 Feathers:
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Bites:
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Tackett feathers:
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Bites:
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The ESEE didn't do to well, I don't know why. I felt the 16 wanted to curl better, but the wood was wet and didn't want to. The Tackett was the best, It was designed for this task specially.

Sixth: Edge

The ESEE 4 held the best edge, I think because of the best HT and thicker edge. The 16 and Tackett were still shaving.

My favorite: The Tackett, very closely followed by the BK16, and then the ESEE 4. The Tackett chops better, and carves better. That's what I do most, second is Cross grain batoning, but to have to chop a baton first.

Enjoy!
 
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You always have well thought out post and a very review of each blade you don't let any bias for one brand over another show.
Plus a lot of very good photos to go along with your information.
Good Job and Thanks for taking all te time to do this.
 
It's odd to see you not hurt yourself while testing... It seems to be a recurrent theme! Nice compare though. That tackett is quite loverly.
 
Pretty solid review, testing, and comments.
I will say that I had a Rat 3, and found the 16 to be so much more comfortable that the difference in overall ability to withstand abuse became a real non issue for me.
To me for a blade in this size range, I find that I do very little that can, or will really damage a knife like the 16. YMMV
I will say that for the Esee, if you get scales from Dale at TKC the comfort is greatly improved, but I still prefer the feel of the 16, by quite a bit.
Looks like you did a nice job on tuning up the edges too, and the Tackett did some really nice work, especially considering its got less edge, and is scandi ground.
Thanks for taking us along with you on your day out MM.
 
Nice review. Well done with good information.
Thank you!

You always have well thought out post and a very review of each blade you don't let any bias for one brand over another show.
Plus a lot of very good photos to go along with your information.
Good Job and Thanks for taking all te time to do this.
Thank you very much, I'm flattered. :) I have I very hard time picking a winner in each test, but I hate it when reviewers say "any knife will work, I can't pick one over the other," it bugs me, like they're wasting my time.

It's odd to see you not hurt yourself while testing... It seems to be a recurrent theme! Nice compare though. That tackett is quite loverly.
To the amount of time I have a blade in-hand and the amount of times I cut myself, I cut myself about once a year to someone who uses a knife four times a day.

Very nice review. All of those are really nice blades.

Thank you very much. And Indeed, they're very nice blades.

Pretty solid review, testing, and comments.
I will say that I had a Rat 3, and found the 16 to be so much more comfortable that the difference in overall ability to withstand abuse became a real non issue for me.
To me for a blade in this size range, I find that I do very little that can, or will really damage a knife like the 16. YMMV
I will say that for the Esee, if you get scales from Dale at TKC the comfort is greatly improved, but I still prefer the feel of the 16, by quite a bit.
Looks like you did a nice job on tuning up the edges too, and the Tackett did some really nice work, especially considering its got less edge, and is scandi ground.
Thanks for taking us along with you on your day out MM.

Yep! The scales on the ESee work, I'm not that big on handle comfort, if it doesn't cut my hand, I'm good. The Tackett would work much better than the 16 for someone with big hands, I however find it a bit wide.
 
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Some good work. What are your thoughts on the sheath?

Ah, yes, the sheath. The Tackett didn't come with a sheath. But it fits perfectly in the BK16 sheath. The ESEE has I better sheath than the BK16 if you like to carry scout. Mine didn't come with any attachment methods, I use para cord and carry Scout at 10 O/clock. I like the BK sheath just fine.
 
Good job Mountainmist. Sorry I missed you at the gathering, I had last minute busness that essentially ate up the entire weekend and then some. I see you have a new BK-16 :D Work always comes first for me with few exceptions. Have the same thing going on this weekend and then will be out of town all week. Trying to squeeze things in and please my clients.
 
Good job Mountainmist. Sorry I missed you at the gathering, I had last minute busness that essentially ate up the entire weekend and then some. I see you have a new BK-16 :D Work always comes first for me with few exceptions. Have the same thing going on this weekend and then will be out of town all week. Trying to squeeze things in and please my clients.

Thank you! I was just going to PM you about the Gathering. I'm sure we'll have another opportunity to meet, my dad had so much fun that we'll probably be at the Fall Gathering if Ethan still has it.
 
Good photos, and some interesting results and conclusions drawn from them. Looks like you are set as far as bushtools go.

:thumbup:
 
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