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Benchamde omega springs
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Hey Chris! Playing too much with the 940, eh?
Try calling Benchmade, they may want you to send the knife back for them to replace the spring - 1-800-800-7427. I heard that the Axis Lock can still function normally even if one of the springs is out. Good luck at getting it fixed. See you in Charlotte this weekend, bud.
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Well thats not good. You'll probably need to send it to benchmade. A question, does the knife still lock effectively? I am expecting mine in the mail today and hopefully this is an isolated instance. As I don't think it is a problem with any of the other axis lock models. Later, Jeff
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Yeah, and my mom always told me that playing with it too much would grow hair on my palms. Well, I've been screwed by Benchmade (again) and I'm still waiting for the hair
Seriously, though, the knife still locks up fine, but I'm not waiting around for the other spring to break.
Personally, I'd rather throw the knife out my freakin' car window on the highway than send it back to Benchmade for "warranty repair" for 2-3 weeks because of a moron replaceable spring (and yes, I am the MIQ or moron-in-question).
It looks like Benchmade owns the market for the omega springs, so I'll have to part with ANOTHER new Benchmade knife for needless factory work.
I mean, if Mossberg and Chris Reeve don't have a problem with user disassembly/reassembly of their products, why in the heck would a company like Microtech, Benchmade or Spyderco have a problem with it? Is there some evil mojo going on inside these knives? Will I let out the genie? Is there a heavy use of duct tape on the inner mechanisms? I think the consequences of putting a 12ga back together incorrectly are much more severe than doing the same with a puny folding knife. I'm tired of footing the #@!% shipping bills to and from the #$%#@ manufacturer for their problem.
And to top it all off, Benchmade sells a freaking tool to adjust their knives, yet it doesn't have all the bits, taunting all who wish to open Pandora's box. ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!! The nerve!
That's it. I've convinced myself to boycott any further purchases from companies that void the customer's, sorry, ELU's warranty on knives if they disassemble them.
Jeez, amazing how pissed a person can get from the lack of availability of a stupid spring (although I'm stll gonna boycott - for at least a couple of weeks)!
Must resist...losing control...will pow-, I-, I-, I'm Cornjolio and I need TP for my bunghole! Sebenzas RULE! Benchmade warranty policies suck! Ya, ya, huh, huh-huh, huh.
Later,
Chris
Personally, I'd rather throw the knife out my freakin' car window on the highway than send it back to Benchmade for "warranty repair" for 2-3 weeks because of a moron replaceable spring (and yes, I am the MIQ or moron-in-question).
It looks like Benchmade owns the market for the omega springs, so I'll have to part with ANOTHER new Benchmade knife for needless factory work.
I mean, if Mossberg and Chris Reeve don't have a problem with user disassembly/reassembly of their products, why in the heck would a company like Microtech, Benchmade or Spyderco have a problem with it? Is there some evil mojo going on inside these knives? Will I let out the genie? Is there a heavy use of duct tape on the inner mechanisms? I think the consequences of putting a 12ga back together incorrectly are much more severe than doing the same with a puny folding knife. I'm tired of footing the #@!% shipping bills to and from the #$%#@ manufacturer for their problem.
And to top it all off, Benchmade sells a freaking tool to adjust their knives, yet it doesn't have all the bits, taunting all who wish to open Pandora's box. ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!! The nerve!
That's it. I've convinced myself to boycott any further purchases from companies that void the customer's, sorry, ELU's warranty on knives if they disassemble them.
Jeez, amazing how pissed a person can get from the lack of availability of a stupid spring (although I'm stll gonna boycott - for at least a couple of weeks)!
Must resist...losing control...will pow-, I-, I-, I'm Cornjolio and I need TP for my bunghole! Sebenzas RULE! Benchmade warranty policies suck! Ya, ya, huh, huh-huh, huh.
Later,
Chris
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I see a man in desperate need of a show! LOL Just a few more days.... Just wait 'till you see the new toys I'll have. One of them blows everything else away...
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Chill out cpr,s#%t happens,once in a blue moon the little robot that makes the Omega springs spaces out and kinks the wire,or it could be his robot buddy who makes the wire,anyway so far it`s been way ,way
less than 1/100th of 1%.The Omegas were designed by Jay and I,and BKC Engineering has done the math,they[the springs , not the engineers] are understressed and will cycle indefinatly,unless the robots screw up.At the risk of getting myself in dutch with Lester you could get a guitar string of the same aproximate gauge,some round-nose pliers and you`d be back in business,I`ll never tell[and don`t go swapping gauges to soup `em up!].What do you think we did?And yes,the system is deliberately designed for redundancy,a built in failsafe.
You didn`t hear it from me,
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less than 1/100th of 1%.The Omegas were designed by Jay and I,and BKC Engineering has done the math,they[the springs , not the engineers] are understressed and will cycle indefinatly,unless the robots screw up.At the risk of getting myself in dutch with Lester you could get a guitar string of the same aproximate gauge,some round-nose pliers and you`d be back in business,I`ll never tell[and don`t go swapping gauges to soup `em up!].What do you think we did?And yes,the system is deliberately designed for redundancy,a built in failsafe.
You didn`t hear it from me,
WildB.
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Well, how do Mr. McHenry! Glad to see you stopping by our hangout. I'm currently hiding here from my job. Great place.
I took your advice a month or so ago and sought-out some stainless piano wire. There's a place in Florida, www.smallparts.com that stocks it, though it's not called piano wire, per se. My advice to you, CPR, would be to order the catalog, order the wire, break out the needlenose pliers, or wait until I get mine in and I'll ship you out a set. I actually ordered a slightly thicker guage.
Otherwise, Benchmade direct is the best way to go. Travis out there will hook you up. His number is 800-800-7427. He'll probably have you ship your knife in as aforementioned. Hope this helps.
Professor.
I took your advice a month or so ago and sought-out some stainless piano wire. There's a place in Florida, www.smallparts.com that stocks it, though it's not called piano wire, per se. My advice to you, CPR, would be to order the catalog, order the wire, break out the needlenose pliers, or wait until I get mine in and I'll ship you out a set. I actually ordered a slightly thicker guage.
Otherwise, Benchmade direct is the best way to go. Travis out there will hook you up. His number is 800-800-7427. He'll probably have you ship your knife in as aforementioned. Hope this helps.
Professor.
Mr. McHenry,
a quick question for you, if you would be so kind.
at this very moment i'm sitting here; my 705 Axis Black coated in my pocket. it's a little tank; i seem to wear it more and more.
now for the question:
is there a specific point in time (from purchase time) that you would recommend sending my little fella back to BM and having the springs replaced? redundant maybe; obsessive probably... but at some point in time it would most likely be needed to prolong the life of the knife.
Thanks
a quick question for you, if you would be so kind.
at this very moment i'm sitting here; my 705 Axis Black coated in my pocket. it's a little tank; i seem to wear it more and more.
now for the question:
is there a specific point in time (from purchase time) that you would recommend sending my little fella back to BM and having the springs replaced? redundant maybe; obsessive probably... but at some point in time it would most likely be needed to prolong the life of the knife.
Thanks
Kelt34,I feel your pain,I too am blessed with superior genes and suffer from the same thick skull."Cycle indefinitely" means just that;w/o getting into a boring discussion about metallurgy,if a spring is only made to do ,say,90% of its work it will do it 24/7/365,provided that the spring is configured properly.Accidental binding,nicks,kinks,porosity,extreme temperatures,and messing around with the preload,etc.are the culprits,and bad little robots should be replaced with happy leprechauns but this is Benchmade,not Kebler
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McBill...
a true touch of class there in that post (and a wee bit o' blarney?!). yeah, i'm a Patrick, so, you know....
thanks for the response. i think this little tank you designed will be with me next Friday evening whilst i'm step-dancing with my daughter at the largest Irish Games/Festival in America- in Bethlehem, Pa. (about 1.5 hrs drive so definitely worth it). seriously, i did learn how to stepdance!!
thanks again! and BTW, if you're just recently coming on here-
Failte!
"Dance as if no one was watching; Sing as if no one was listening. Make love as if you never will again; and Live every day as if it was your last."
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a true touch of class there in that post (and a wee bit o' blarney?!). yeah, i'm a Patrick, so, you know....
thanks for the response. i think this little tank you designed will be with me next Friday evening whilst i'm step-dancing with my daughter at the largest Irish Games/Festival in America- in Bethlehem, Pa. (about 1.5 hrs drive so definitely worth it). seriously, i did learn how to stepdance!!
thanks again! and BTW, if you're just recently coming on here-
Failte!
"Dance as if no one was watching; Sing as if no one was listening. Make love as if you never will again; and Live every day as if it was your last."
[This message has been edited by KELT34 (edited 09-21-2000).]
Warranty schmaranty....if its got fasteners and not locktite pins its meant to be taken apart as needed. If I screw-up somewhere I expect to pay...but hey its my knife. Heck...glock will void the warranty if you use anything but factory jacketed fodder and they don't want you to do a detail strip unless you're an 'authorized armourer'...and its a dang tinkertoy. Liability and lawyers is what its all about...just life today.
Chris...I understand the frustration...they should just put a stamp on an envelope and send you the spring if you prefer to put it in yourself. I know the pain...I 'retired' a good g10 spydie cause the pivot screw backed out and got away from me. They didn't want to send me a simple screw so I just threw it in the back box and figured I'd run across someone with a screw sometime...that was probably 5-6 yrs ago.
McBill....Thanks for such a great blade....got a bunch of axis's but my fav is still the 710...plain vanilla version..destined to be a classic no doubt. Everyone I turn them on to loves em...
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Chris...I understand the frustration...they should just put a stamp on an envelope and send you the spring if you prefer to put it in yourself. I know the pain...I 'retired' a good g10 spydie cause the pivot screw backed out and got away from me. They didn't want to send me a simple screw so I just threw it in the back box and figured I'd run across someone with a screw sometime...that was probably 5-6 yrs ago.
McBill....Thanks for such a great blade....got a bunch of axis's but my fav is still the 710...plain vanilla version..destined to be a classic no doubt. Everyone I turn them on to loves em...
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Bill,
Thanks for the reply and the piano spring suggetion, although I'm sure that if I needed a new spring for my 590A1, Mossberg wouldn't want me using a homemade spring.
I'm now chilled out, as I had actually forgotten that I still own the 940, let alone that it is broken, until I came back across this thread.
I do understand that poo happens and that things break. Cool, no problem. I also understand that common sense should prevail, although it doesn't seem to at an increasing number of companies. I could honestly care less about the spring at this point. I'm just tired of the PC mentality that some companies take. I think Smith and Wesson is in the process of learning why the customer is always right and not to bow down to Political Correctness and the fear of being sued.
I LOVE the Axis lock and would LOVE to own 50 of them. I think that the design is pure genius. I greatly prefer it over other locking mechanisms.
As an example of my dilemma, one knife company didn't have a problem sending me TWO torsion bars for a failed one in a new knife that I bought, and they have the same policy as Benchmade about owner disassembly. They even stopped production so they could get me the parts. Now THAT is service. The knife was hell of a lot more complicated than the Axis lock to re-assemble, yet common sense seems to prevail at this company. It also helped that the person I spoke with had a personality and could think for themselves, unlike some in the warranty department at Benchmade (though I'm sure not all are like this and are in fact very personable). I understand that they are just towing the company line.
No offense to anyone personally, these are just my opinions and how I perceive the attitudes of some people I've dealt with at Benchmade over the past 6 years.
Les, if you're listening, I REALLY want to be one of your customers again.
Take care (and thanks again for the input Bill),
Chris
Thanks for the reply and the piano spring suggetion, although I'm sure that if I needed a new spring for my 590A1, Mossberg wouldn't want me using a homemade spring.
I'm now chilled out, as I had actually forgotten that I still own the 940, let alone that it is broken, until I came back across this thread.
I do understand that poo happens and that things break. Cool, no problem. I also understand that common sense should prevail, although it doesn't seem to at an increasing number of companies. I could honestly care less about the spring at this point. I'm just tired of the PC mentality that some companies take. I think Smith and Wesson is in the process of learning why the customer is always right and not to bow down to Political Correctness and the fear of being sued.
I LOVE the Axis lock and would LOVE to own 50 of them. I think that the design is pure genius. I greatly prefer it over other locking mechanisms.
As an example of my dilemma, one knife company didn't have a problem sending me TWO torsion bars for a failed one in a new knife that I bought, and they have the same policy as Benchmade about owner disassembly. They even stopped production so they could get me the parts. Now THAT is service. The knife was hell of a lot more complicated than the Axis lock to re-assemble, yet common sense seems to prevail at this company. It also helped that the person I spoke with had a personality and could think for themselves, unlike some in the warranty department at Benchmade (though I'm sure not all are like this and are in fact very personable). I understand that they are just towing the company line.
No offense to anyone personally, these are just my opinions and how I perceive the attitudes of some people I've dealt with at Benchmade over the past 6 years.
Les, if you're listening, I REALLY want to be one of your customers again.
Take care (and thanks again for the input Bill),
Chris
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Mr McHenry! Just wanted to say thanks for gracing us with your wisdom here, and thanks for coming up with such a dang neat, and strong, design. Excellent. So good, in fact, that I own 4 of them, and imagine more will be coming. Like the 705 (if BM will ever go to either 154CM or M2 in it.... )
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I've dealt with BS CS and there are good people people there. i.e. : Angie.
The problem is with the corporate philosophy at BM. They think that they are all knowing and that we should just shut up and pay. The reason they take this attitude is because, by and large, we do!
The problem is with the corporate philosophy at BM. They think that they are all knowing and that we should just shut up and pay. The reason they take this attitude is because, by and large, we do!
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Nimrod,
You're right, they are just following company policy (I still think that it wouldn't be too tough to sneak a spring out here and there for a known BF member and wannabe dedicated Benchmade fan). I have had some very good experiences with warranty work performed on my Benchmades in the past and not been too disappointed with the CS employees. Unfortunately, the company policy regarding disassembly of their knives sucks and is unfair to the end user for something as trivial as a spring. I know that I am not alone in this belief.
Bill,
Again, thanks for your help. I do appreciate the advice and will perform the overdue repairs this weekend. I'm looking forward to carrying the Axis ASAP. It is too smooth and has too much flick appeal to sit in a drawer.
Take care,
Chris
You're right, they are just following company policy (I still think that it wouldn't be too tough to sneak a spring out here and there for a known BF member and wannabe dedicated Benchmade fan). I have had some very good experiences with warranty work performed on my Benchmades in the past and not been too disappointed with the CS employees. Unfortunately, the company policy regarding disassembly of their knives sucks and is unfair to the end user for something as trivial as a spring. I know that I am not alone in this belief.
Bill,
Again, thanks for your help. I do appreciate the advice and will perform the overdue repairs this weekend. I'm looking forward to carrying the Axis ASAP. It is too smooth and has too much flick appeal to sit in a drawer.
Take care,
Chris