Benchmade 523 Presidio Tanto less than 3"

[isaacgier]

Hope this hasn't already been delt with, searched for it and couldnt find anything. Does anyone own or sell the Benchmade 523 Presidio Tanto and can tell me that the blade measures less than 3". In the benchmade catalog it says 2.97 but when you do real life measurements I swear it's longer.....anyway, I live in North Las Vegas, they're really strict here on gun and knife laws, don't want to get caught with an illegal weapon and can't ask a cop for the fear of getting arrested on the spot.

 

[puukkoman]

I have a 525 (same knife, but not a tanto - can't stand 'em), and the blade is exactly 1/32" shy of 3 inches in length. And, since 1/32" = .03125", 2.97" is right on the money (3 - .03 = 2.97).

 

[mlot51]

Actually the 525 and 523 are not the same knife. The 525 (2.97" blade) is the "mini" version of the 520 (3.42" blade). The 523 is the "tanto" version of the 520.

The blade length of 2.97" for the 523 on the Benchmade site is a misprint. It is actually about 3.5". I measured mine and it is a "hair" under 3.5". Stick with the 525 if it has to be under 3".

 

[Joe Dirt]

Thanks mlot51. I wondered because it not only says it on their site but it says it in the new 2006 catalog.

I was hoping it wasn't a small tanto.

Good to know

 

[mlot51]

Thanks mlot51. I wondered because it not only says it on their site but it says it in the new 2006 catalog.

I was hoping it wasn't a small tanto.

Good to know

No Problemo! I would like to see a "mini" 523 though! I guess we could call it the 528?

FYI, I emailed Benchmade, and they already updated the blade length of the 523. Website now states 3.42".

http://www.benchmade.com/products/product_detail.aspx?model=523

 

[isaacgier]

I was afraid of that, I'm glad I asked, goddamn benchmade, I already spent $200 on the knife and now I can't carry it!!!!! I've had it for a week so I can't return it. This really makes me mad.

 

[mlot51]

but when you do real life measurements I swear it's longer.....

What kind of ruler did you measure with? Oh, well you still got a great knife.

Next time check out this place:

http://newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=5003

This one is under 3":

http://newgraham.com/detail.aspx?ID=3919

 

[puukkoman]

That's the one I have, and recommend highly.

My mistake, I thought the 523 was the size of the 525.

If it turns out you don't want to keep it, either sell it to a forumite, or post it on eBay (probably the most financially sound move).

 

[isaacgier]

Please tell me there's no length limit for carrying a pockey knife in Las Vegas or North las Vegas. I heard it was 3", which would exclude my aforementioned knife, but Nevada law doesn't mention a length, I think there's some city law tho. Does anyone know for sure, I tried to find it on the city website but had no luck.

 

[mlot51]

Im no lawyer, but I think youre outta luck-

http://ordlink.com/codes/lasvegas/_DATA/TITLE10/Chapter_10_70_DANGEROUS_OR_DEA.html

10.70.010 Defined.
“Dangerous or deadly weapons” includes, but it not limited to:
(A) Any dirk or dagger;
(B) Any knife with a blade three inches or more in length;
(C) Any snap-blade or spring-blade knife, regardless of length of the blade;
(D) Any ice pick or similar sharp stabbing tool;
(E) Any straightedge razor or any razor blade fitted to a handle;
(F) Any dangerous or deadly weapon within the meaning of any law of this State restricting the use thereof; and
(G) Any cutting, stabbing or bludgeoning weapon or device capable of inflicting grievous bodily harm; and
(H) Any firearm other than one carried pursuant to a valid permit issued by a duly authorized governmental authority or an ordinary rifle or shotgun lawfully carried for purposes of hunting or other lawful sport.
(1949 code Ch. 38 § 4; prior code § 6-3-4)

This is how I found it-

Go here:

http://ordlink.com/codes/lasvegas/index.htm

click:
"Title 10 PUBLIC PEACE, MORALS AND WELFARE"

Scroll on right to:

Division IX WEAPONS

Click:
Chapter 10.70 DANGEROUS OR DEADLY WEAPONS

 

[isaacgier]

So that means I can't carry a concealed blade over 3" right, so if I clip it on my pocket so the end is showing I should have a 3.42" blade but it's not concealed, does anyone know if that's right?

 

[puukkoman]

That's where interpretation of the law comes in, and what constitutes concealment. You'll need to contact some lawyers (several, not just one, in order to get a feel fot the general consensus). The cops are not an accurate resource when it comes to things like this.

 

[isaacgier]

I appreciate the reply, thank you. :thumbup:

 

[mlot51]

So that means I can't carry a concealed blade over 3" right, so if I clip it on my pocket so the end is showing I should have a 3.42" blade but it's not concealed, does anyone know if that's right?

The problem seems to be that Las Vegas considers any knife with a blade over 3" to be a "Dangerous or deadly weapon"

Thats not good.

Henceforth...

From:

http://ordlink.com/codes/lasvegas/_DATA/TITLE10/Chapter_10_68_CONCEALED_CARRYI.html

10.68.010 Required.
No person, except a peace officer, shall wear or in any manner carry concealed upon his person any loaded or unloaded gun, pistol or revolver, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon permitted to be carried by law without having, at the same time, actually in his possession and upon his person, an unexpired permit so to do issued by the Sheriff of the Metropolitan Police Department or his designee.
(Ord. 3889 § 1 (part), 1995: Ord. 1880 § 1, 1977: prior code § 6-3-1)

Once again, I am no lawyer, so you might want to take puukkoman's advice. Try calling couple on the phone and see if you can get any answers. They probably wont be the ones you are looking for, but Good Luck anyway!