Benchmade 585 mini barrage update?

MercyfulfateXX

MercyfulfateXX

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good evening knife enthusiast, wasn't it this model of Benchmade that had the issue with the axis spring assist? then updated/fixed later on? I believe this is the model I have chosen for my first mid priced(?) Benchmade. I just don't think the Grip or mini Grip will do it. most of the reviews ive read has stated this is a great knife with full stainless liners and good action/feel. It also won 2009 Knife of the Year.

anyone that owns one still like it? did it deserve the 2009 Knife of the Year award? I can buy one for 119$ at my Knife place. I would guess the full stainless liners add some kind of weight/stability to it?

thanks for any replies in advance. and feel free to post any of your 585 pics.
 
I have two of them and like them a lot. I have smaller hands and they feel great in my hand. I find them to be light weight...compared to my ZT566...and have never had a problem with the axis spring assist. The knives are nearly two years old.
 
I'm not a fan. No specific reason, I bought it very impulsively when I bought my grip on the zon, foolishly didn't realize it was AO and have heard that benchmades are a different ball game when taken apart, so I haven't got around to trying to deassist. I've been planning on selling mine...I may warm up to it but i doubt it
 
I have a 585 AND 3 586's. Mine are all fine. Great knives in the mini-Grip size range with a better "hold-ability" to me than the mini-Gs have. I keep mine as they come... the assist feature is fine with me and they close easily against my leg.
 
IIRC there was a problem with the 580 - full-size version - NOT the 585 mini-barrage. When it came out in 2009, it was ~$80 new. I bought one as my first Benchmade and it only encouraged me to buy more. 4 years later, I've had to send it back once for new omega-springs but the assist spring is doing fine, strong as the day i bought it. The model has been updated with other versions featuring G10 scales and different blade steel as well as blade profiles (e.g. tanto), so check those out before you decide which to buy. I like the cheaper scales fine. YES, the steel liners (well skeletonized) add "stability" - it has the feel of a "beefy" knife in a small package, very strong. The handle is also longer than the mini-grip so it doesn't have those issues. If I get the chance, I'll throw up some pictures...

But as I typed, it came out at ~$80 so you might keep an eye out for a cheaper deal or spring for fancier construction. I haven't bothered to de-assist mine and find it easy enough to open and close one-handed.

I like it.
 
I like mine too. It was my first BM (also because of the AE, 2009 knife of the year), and also my entre into higher end production folders, before my tastes and preferences begin to take shape. It was before BM's recent pricing adjustment so I paid around $85 I think. The main subjective detractors for me, and they're minor...

1) Assist is really unnecessary since manually would be just as fast and be easier to close one-handed, and give you the option of opening slow around non-knife people, and they could loose the safety as well.

2) Valox, though durable and lightens the OA weight, makes it a little more slippery than most G10, CF, etc., and just feels somewhat cheap to me...also carries a little "thick" in the pocket.

3) Lastly and IMO most importantly, I have to remove one scale to adjust the hidden pivot since, on my copy at least, the strong snap of the assisted opening breaks the locktite'd threads and I start getting a slight blade play. When the knife is in use I must repeat this annoying procedure every few months. A clear case, and misuse of, form over function.

On the plus side, BM really knows how to HT 154CM (*IMO a really underrated steel for EDC users...very good edge retention and sharpens easily...and still one of my favorite steels even after having and using many PM super steels...I like it far better than Spyderco's default user steel, VG10). Also the approx. 3" blade shape is great with pronounced belly and well placed swedges at the tip for penetrating cuts. Not quite as good of a slicer as a FFG, but still not bad and a very sturdy blade.

If I had it to do all over again though, I'd just get a mini-grip (which I ultimately did anyway) for less $$ and skip the Mini-Barrage...although it's still a pretty good EDC knife.
 
I have a 585 and 586. I love both as is. The 585 has a lot of belly and a nice thin grind. The 585 is super pocketable and very stout for its weight. I love my mini grip too. I don't think I could decide between them.
 
chiral.grolim said:
IIRC there was a problem with the 580 - full-size version - NOT the 585 mini-barrage. When it came out in 2009, it was ~$80 new. I bought one as my first Benchmade and it only encouraged me to buy more. 4 years later, I've had to send it back once for new omega-springs but the assist spring is doing fine, strong as the day i bought it. The model has been updated with other versions featuring G10 scales and different blade steel as well as blade profiles (e.g. tanto), so check those out before you decide which to buy. I like the cheaper scales fine. YES, the steel liners (well skeletonized) add "stability" - it has the feel of a "beefy" knife in a small package, very strong. The handle is also longer than the mini-grip so it doesn't have those issues. If I get the chance, I'll throw up some pictures...

But as I typed, it came out at ~$80 so you might keep an eye out for a cheaper deal or spring for fancier construction. I haven't bothered to de-assist mine and find it easy enough to open and close one-handed.

I like it.
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Thanks for the info,i ordered one last night.cant wait to get it. I wanted a Benchmade and I wanted a knife that wouldnt be too pricey and one that felt like I had a knife in my hand. Skeletonized meaning the full stainless liners aren't full there are cutouts?
 
knolan said:
I like mine too. It was my first BM (also because of the AE, 2009 knife of the year), and also my entre into higher end production folders, before my tastes and preferences begin to take shape. It was before BM's recent pricing adjustment so I paid around $85 I think. The main subjective detractors for me, and they're minor...

1) Assist is really unnecessary since manually would be just as fast and be easier to close one-handed, and give you the option of opening slow around non-knife people, and they could loose the safety as well.

2) Valox, though durable and lightens the OA weight, makes it a little more slippery than most G10, CF, etc., and just feels somewhat cheap to me...also carries a little "thick" in the pocket.

3) Lastly and IMO most importantly, I have to remove one scale to adjust the hidden pivot since, on my copy at least, the strong snap of the assisted opening breaks the locktite'd threads and I start getting a slight blade play. When the knife is in use I must repeat this annoying procedure every few months. A clear case, and misuse of, form over function.

On the plus side, BM really knows how to HT 154CM (*IMO a really underrated steel for EDC users...very good edge retention and sharpens easily...and still one of my favorite steels even after having and using many PM super steels...I like it far better than Spyderco's default user steel, VG10). Also the approx. 3" blade shape is great with pronounced belly and well placed swedges at the tip for penetrating cuts. Not quite as good of a slicer as a FFG, but still not bad and a very sturdy blade.

If I had it to do all over again though, I'd just get a mini-grip (which I ultimately did anyway) for less $$ and skip the Mini-Barrage...although it's still a pretty good EDC knife.
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Thanks for your input. I bought one last night so I will wait and see if its what im looking for. Im hoping its a good one. my ZTs and my Spyderco are thick and brutal knives im sure compared to the Barrage but im going into that knowing this. Im just hoping its a good and smooth knife worthy of the 119$
 
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