Benchmade dive knife Sheath question

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Does anyone know what the point (no pun intended) is of the thumb safty toggle on the sheath? I would assume it is to lock the knife into the sheath but all you have to do is give the handle of the knife a good pull (with the toggle in lock position) and the toggle lock pops right open and out comes the knife. I would of put this on the knife company forum but Benchmade is not on it. Does anyone have this knife and what are your experiences with the safty lock on the sheath? Thanks to anyone who responds!
 
...even though you don't have to disengage the toggle to pull the knife out, it does help retain the blade. Check out the amount of force that you have to use to pull the blade without the toggle engaged and you will see the difference.

That being said, it is not the best sheath design I have seen; although it is the best of any production whitewater knives that I have tested.

Thom
 
best looking blade for whitewater, that's for sure. OK steel - GIN1 (old models) and now H1. Sheath is definitely not the best.

Considering that there is a definite market for a good whitewater knife, I'm wondering why no company can produce a functional yet beautiful whitewater blade.
 
Your right that it does take more force to pull with it engaged than without. That's what I kind of thought myself so thanks for the reply.

I agree also about the need for good knives and sheath designs for white water and sea touring kayak. I'm a kayaker myself and for the most part there isn't much out there in good knives for any water activity. Most of these people are pretty serious about their equipment and would purchase high quality and funcional knives and sheaths. I wonder why this market isn't addressed by the knife manufacurers(sp?).

Thanks guys.
 
I recently bought two H1's on behalf of my Fire and Rescue Service.
I have found the toggle to be useless - it takes no more force to remove the knife with it "locked" as it does unlocked.
 
The idea behind the toggle is not the amount of force it takes to remove the knife, it's there to help keep the knife from being jarred out or falling out during heavy activity, and it does that perfectly, and you still can get the knife out of the sheath in a quick jerk.
It is not there to keep someone from getting the knife out of the sheath or prevent you from getting the knife out of the sheath.
Kind of like a Milk Jug lid, it's there to help prevent you from spilling the milk but it doesn't keep you from getting your milk either.
 
ngk-webmaster is absolutely right. It's more for keeping the knife in during boofs, spins, cartwheels, whoopies etc :D none of which I am capable off (ok, maybe the unintentional boofing off a rock)...
 
I have come to the conclusion that it is the only rescue knife I need 99% of the time (for whitewater). I can't cut up my lunch with it, but it is great, and almost fail safe, for rope, fabric, neoprene and webbing. It is super easy to get out of the kydex sheath, low profile, and opens beer bottles!!

Just to anticipate the usual question: No, I can't cut a boat up with it, but neither can I cut one up with any rescue knife on the market. I got to try on a Liquid Logic boat. Not one knife would go through the cockpit rim. I carry a folding saw (which split the boat rim to stern in less than 45 seconds) for tougher cutting jobs like boats and wood.

Thom
 
I've always used it with my thumb to push the sheath down and help pop the blade out ( Nimravus). I wear my pants a little on the loose side and this helps keep me from pulling them way up when I draw the knife.
 
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