Benchmade, Emerson CQC

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I have this benchmade knife, as far as I know it is a Emerson design,cqc, with a 3.5 inch blade. The question I have is, what is the blade made of? It is non magnetic and very light, is it titanium?What was this knife designed for? I sure would appreciate any info on this knife, Thanks George
 
It's a BM 970. It's probably ATS-34.

While steel, ATS-34 is not attracted by common magnets, so you may perceive it as non-magnetic (most stainless steels are this way).

However, a limited number of those were made of Titanium.

The original design was by Emerson. The US Navy wanted to buy a large number of them with Ti blades for munitions work, larger than Emerson's shop could provide. So, the idea of having Benchmade make them was born. But, the Navy's order, while to large for Emerson's own shop, was to small for Benchmade to tool up their factory for at a reasonable cost. But, Benchmade suggested that they could do the job if they could also market a civilian version of the knife. A deal was struck and the rest, as they say, is history.

Most of those sold in the civilian market were ATS-34 stainless steel since Ti doesn't take or hold a good edge. But, a Ti blade was an unpopular option for civilian customers.

The legendary firearms manufacturer H&K had BM make a special batch of these with their logo on them to use as tradeshow trinkets. They even offered a boxed set featuring the knife and one of their USP pistols in a fitted box. It's the sort of gift pack that you wish you'd received instead of that Hickory Farms sausage and cheese box your mother-in-law sent, eh?

There is a rummor that a very limited number of these knives were made for the US Navy Seals with a top-secret alloy that is totally non-magnetic and yet which does take and hold a good edge. According to the rummor, this alloy is so secret that BM had to collect up every shaving and every filing and account for it all. But, then again, you know about rummors ;)

The design is as a combat knife for military use. It's designed, as Emerson's name for it, CQC-7, Close Quarters Combat design number 7, is intended for hand-to-hand combat. It's designed to be easy to open even with gloved hands. It's also designed to be very heavy-duty for a small folding knife.

BM also offered an automatic (switchblade) version, their 9700 which found some popularity with military customers.

However, it is a heavy knife and somewhat, well, one might say, "clunky." For its intended customer, military users for combat use, it's a great design. However, most civilian users found it a bit to large. So, BM ended up discontinuing it. You can still get very much the same knife directly from Mr. Emerson's own company.
 
Thanks Chuck for the interesting info on CQC 7,our local knife store tells me the blade on this knife is titanium not ATS-34, it also has a weird layer of a gold /silverish coating 1/8 inch wide running along the cutting edge, what a strange beast! I know Mission out here in Calif. is putting out some of these titanium knives for the Navy, it is amazing just how sharp these knives are. thanks again for the info. George Brudnak, gbrudnak@aol.com
 
George,

That coating on the back of the Ti blade is a carbide. The idea is that this reinforces the cutting edge on the blade - it wears down slower than the titanium.

Regards,

Ed
 
What a coincidence,

I just got a LNIB Emerson CQC7 in the mail today. I was mailny curious since i still have the Benchmade version i carried for four years at Ft Bragg and overseas. When i got it it was a big purchase (for a knife) for me. Previously i had owned very few decent quality folders, probably the most expensive being a Spyderco Police model (all stainless). I liked the Tanto blade shape as well as the overall stoutness of the knife. After having this knife for a while i "vowed" toe never buy another folder that was not adjustable and able to be dissembled. That is a rule i still follow mostly. Well it has been to Benchmade twice for repair/resharpening and a new pocket clip. all the parts except the clip are origional BM changed the way the scales are attached by countersinking "nuts" on the side opposite the screws, i think previously there were screws on both sides. It has been sharpened to the point that the serrations are almost straight, you can barly make out where the BM and Emerson symbols were, the G10 handle slabs have been worn smooth, and there is a small nick on the spine where a wire arched while on a "covert" mission hotwiring an ATV while at Ft. Benning. It is the most used, abused and carried knife i own. It is still sharp, smooth and locks up tight.
The new Emerson built one is very similiar obviously. The differences are in the details: Blade pivot screw on the Emerson is slotted on the BM its HEX. On the "front" slab the Emersom has only two screws visiable while the BM has 4 (the Emerson has the other two on the opposite side). The pocket clips are different but equally useful the Emerson give you the option of tip up or tip down carry the BM is tip down. The BM overall handle thickness is very marginally thinner 0.025". Blade thichnesses are the same 0.125". The blade prifiles are the same but the grinds are slightly different: The grind line of the Emerson is totally straight right up to where it meets the handle the BM curves down as it approaches the handle. The small spot before the choil is as expected on the BM but sharpened on the Emerson. The opening disk on the BM is slightly thicker attached with a hex bolt and textured with straight verticle serrations, the Emerson has a black disk attached with a phillips screw and criss-cross textured. Both have liners of Ti the same thickness but the Emerson has an interesting difference, thre is an additional ball-detent opposite the linerlock side. This seems to be a cure for a problem that never existed. My BM model never opened in my pocket or anything crazy. This extra tension on the blade reduces the opening smoothness.
Overall they are both worthy knives and "identical" to the casual observer but "attention to detail" is still with me. I now have many higher tech knives, autos and even my first custom (Strider SnG Tanto). But still the one i have carried the most and will never sell is the BM CQC7 the new one just isn't the same in my opinion but i am biased

Geoff
 
I got my BM CQC7 off of these forums and it is an incredible piece. The previous user had used the hell out of this knife and it is still serviceable. It has a tighter lock up than any other liner lock knife I own and the blade although missing most of it's BT coating is sharper than any other Emerson I have! I really love this little guy. I would really be happy to find another if I could.
Matt
 
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