Benchmade Shoki Carbon Fiber

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I'm thinking about an M-390 Shoki as my next knife. Anyone have one? If so, how pleased with the knife are you? Is the M-390 as good as I'm being lead to believe? I bought a ZPD-189 Carbon fiber Stretch 2. Nice knife but I was not impressed with the edge holding of ZPD-189. Didn't seem at all superior to the S-30 in Bladetech's Pro Hunter and Ganyana. I'm hoping M-390 might be the real deal.

Thanks,

Frank
 
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maybe you mean the Benchmade Shoki?
I have one and it's gorgeous, but I have to send it back this weekend because the fit and finish is terrible.

That said, if you can check it out in real life, I'd recommend it. But don't order online.

Pretty awesome design.
 
It is the Benchmade Shoki that I am asking about. Are they going to fix the fit/finish for no charge? Thanks for the tip about online orders.

Any other opinions?

Thanks.
 
I'd guess they would have to given they have a lifetime warranty on crafstsmanship to cover fit and finish.
 
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maybe you mean the Benchmade Shoki?
I have one and it's gorgeous, but I have to send it back this weekend because the fit and finish is terrible.

Can you please elaborate what are the problems with this knife? I'm also thinking of buying one too. Thanks.
 
I just got one -- I think it's a good knife. Deployment is fairly smooth. Not hydraulic smooth like my Sebenza, but no problems. Thumb stud is effective and not painful. No problems with Nak-Lok -- it engages securely and I'm not afraid of accidental release. The release button is well designed. It's not difficult to release but requires enough pressure and stroke to avoid accidental release.

The knife's strongest points are slim size, light weight, good lock mechanism. Grip on the carbon fiber scales is adequate -- not like a Griptilian, but not slippery. It's a fairly good-size blade in a very small, lightweight package.

I like the thin blade -- good slicing.

I don't like the lanyard hole at the end, which adds to the overall length a bit. It comes with a sheath, which is OK. I'd rather it have a thin wire clip, like the Spyderco Chaparral -- another carbon-fiber folder in the same size class.

I haven't used it enough to characterize the M390 steel. It came pretty sharp from the factory.

I'm not crazy about the choil. It encourages putting your finger there, but IMO it's too small. The blade edge is nearly touching my finger.

There's a microscopic amount of lateral and longitudinal blade play -- almost undetectable. I'm very picky about that and it's doesn't bother me at all. Likewise blade is minutely off-center when folded, but it's extremely small.

I think it's a great knife "as is" and recommend it. If I could tweak the design, I'd lose the lanyard hole, make the scales a little more grippy, make the choil bigger and add a wire clip. However I'm happy with it as is.
 
I have EDC-ed a BM 755 MPR in M390 - the edge holds up great. Resharpened once - with a Spydie Sharpmaker - uneventful. It's a thick blade - not a great slicer. The 480-1 .090" blade seems almost dainty by comparison - I thought the slight 'movement' at the blade tip was flexure - and the unsure nature of the Nak Lock seemed to fade after a few operations - perhaps a 'break-in' ritual is needed. The QC seemed good - well centered blade - quite decent build quality. I went to the enabler to get the 480-1 - left with a ZT 0551 - sorry!

Stainz
 
The only beef I have with mine is that the blade is significantly off center, close to touching the liner on one side. I haven't had it long enough to tell if the M390 is a good performer.
 
Just got a Shoki. Fit and finish is perfect, as has been the case with every Benchmade I've owned. I really like the way Benchmade does the carbon fiber -- it's much nicer than Spyderco's versions. The knife is a little small for me -- about the size of a Chris Reeve Mnandi.
 
Just got a Shoki. Fit and finish is perfect, as has been the case with every Benchmade I've owned. I really like the way Benchmade does the carbon fiber -- it's much nicer than Spyderco's versions. The knife is a little small for me -- about the size of a Chris Reeve Mnandi.

Is there any grip to the CF? Spyderco has lots of CF knives - from Japan, Taiwan, USA. WHich are you refering to?
 
Can you please elaborate what are the problems with this knife? I'm also thinking of buying one too. Thanks.

I apologize for missing this post. Anyway, the blade is WAY off center and rubbing the liner. There is also noticeable, but not huge, vertical play. Definitely enough to bother me. My dealer said it was the best of three he had, and supposing I believe him, that would essentially mean the other two were non-functional.

I didn't bother calling. I just mailed it maybe Wednesday. I HATE having to use a warranty service, which is why I call dealers and ask them to do a thorough check up. I think that they really just glance at it though, because I simply can't imagine something this off centered would go by unnoticed. Now, I'm picky--I have a ridiculous attention to detail. But this would bother any owner.

Anyway, I'm crazy busy up until late at night, hence now, so warranty service is a real pain for me since I generally can't ever call these companies. I'm trying to get a simple clip for my Spyderco Dodo and I can't get it done because, at least the last three times I called (all last week) no one answered the phone at the warranty/service desk. They did timely respond to my question I left on the voicemail, but all they said is that I needed to call so they could figure out which wireclip to send me. But I can't. They check out long before I have a moment to breathe.

I get having an off centered blade on or a little play on a $40 knife, but on a $180 special edition? Come on. That's unacceptable.

Anyway, my subjective impression: it was great. It looks amazing--the carbon fiber is really attractive, loved the anodized liners, the nak lock was fun to use and held up to a very gentle whack (this is obviously not a tactial knife), it's very smooth. Interestingly, despite being so small, my average sized hands fit on it quite nicely. I definitely understand the concern of another poster regarding the finger choil. However, I don't mind its small size given the tasks that this knife is designed for--really gentle stuff like opening letters, cutting the tape on a box and so on. I think it'd be fine for that.

The sheath is...not very nice, but I'm not like, a sheath collector, I'm a knife collector, so I'm pretty much unconcerned. It is quite effective though. Holds the knife snugly. That said, for such an understated gentleman's folder, why did they use the default long chromed out Benchmade clip? Go for something a little less obvious guys. I would like to wear this with a suit, but I think I'd get questions about this all the time.

Anyway, here's my current word on it, subject to review when/if the knife ever returns. If you can see it in person, you like it and the fit and finish is good enough for you, buy it. I do really love the design and the materials.
 
Artfully Martial, many thanks for taking the time to do a detailed reply. As I live outside the States I also don't like the idea of returning faulty knives for service so I always listen to others' experience before making a plunge. Your reply has been very valuable.

I also like the looks of this knife and believe it would be a nice dress knife if properly done. I am sorry that yours turn out this way. I agree with you, getting an off-centered blade on a limited-run special edition is really disappointing, I would certainly feel so myself. Hope your dealer can sort it out satisfactorily for you.

That is the problem that I perceive about Benchmade: getting a properly done knife from them is now often a hit-or-miss, which is a pity, because the Axis is my favorite lock. In comparison, Spyderco and Kershaw produce stuff that are more consistent.
 
Concerning the online dealers, you can always ask them to check for things like blade centering. I did, and mine came perfectly centered.
 
I also asked specifically from a big name dealer and it came rubbing...

And I started it with "hey, I've heard the Shoki has this and this problem so check it out and make sure" lol, so they were forewarned.

I have hit and miss experiences with dealers these days.
 
The Shoki CF offers a little more grip than the Caly 3 ZDP and UKPK, which have really smooth CF. It is not as good as the Taichung-produced CF that I have (Gayle Bradley, Terzuola) and certainly not as grippy as the peel-ply CF.

I should also not that the very tip of my blade is ground crooked, but other than that the blade grind is really good.
 
Is there any grip to the CF? Spyderco has lots of CF knives - from Japan, Taiwan, USA. WHich are you refering to?

I have owned all the Spyderco carbon fiber versions. The version on the Stretch 2 (USA) is a grippier G10 style -- not so attractive. The version on the Native 4 (Japan) looks nice but is too slick. The version on the Gayle Bradley (Taiwan) is the best of the three -- looks great and has some grip to it.

I like the Shoki CF even better than the Gayle Bradley -- it is the most attrative (to me) of the four with a multi-dimensional depth in the weave and has enough texture to be grippy.
 
I handle the Shoki at my local knife shop every time I am in, it is a fine Gentleman's folder. I have the 581 Barrage w/ the M390 blade and it is sharp out of the box. I put an edge on it that I prefer to maintain, it took a hour with diamond sharpeners to get the edge. That was a week ago and the is still no need for touch up.
 
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