benchmade skirmish stronger than sebenza

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what do you think about ?

We tested theses two knives when we want to cut steel foil and fiberglass. At the beginning I think with the 4 holes in the blade the Skirmish can not compete against the Sebenza but even with the direct picking we can not see the weekness in the blade, no chip no bristle

There are some micro chips in the Sebenza

But the look of Sebenza is ten time better than Skirmish. I hate the holes


Just some opinion


Some one tested these two knives already ?
 
I love the holes but I HATE the rainbow crap in the handle.

Some of you guys focus too much on crazy strength tests and whatnot. Most of you don't even use the tons of knives you own for more than letter/box opening...

Warthog
 
Personally I don't care if one is better because I'll never end up spending the money to own a sebenza. :)
 
Warthog said:
I love the holes but I HATE the rainbow crap in the handle.

Some of you guys focus too much on crazy strength tests and whatnot. Most of you don't even use the tons of knives you own for more than letter/box opening...

Warthog
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Most of time I used the knife of my mother ( carbon steel, extremely sharp, and cost less than 20 $ more than all of others knifes )

but I love knife and we me and my friends tested a lot of knife, just for pleasure and by curiosity cutting various things, prying, using knife like the baillonnette against hard object

And we verify about the steel marketing too

Our conclusion is the expensive steel is not worth the price we paid for. Most of time, an 440 A or B or C is LARGELY enough for use, all the BG42, VG10, S30V ... are not necessary

According to an knife test ( not by us ) that I forgot the name, the steel composition is less important than the angle of the edge, the design and the balance of the handle. We agree with this conclusion, it seem to me that a thin blade is better to cut

One other thing is important too, we prefer the steel which non rust-resistant, I mean we prefer non-inoxydable steel, otherwise called tool steel ? like D2, A2 and carbon V, they are better for the edge and sharpening

That is just our own test and conclusion, some of you can not agree with us
 
Patryn said:
Personally I don't care if one is better because I'll never end up spending the money to own a sebenza. :)
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then Spyderco/Ken Onion
then Benchmade

Chris Reeve is very well made but TOO expensive, so for us it's only a " marketing plan ". Sorry for CR fan. I'm my self a fan of CR for their look
 
You can't be serious. How can you compare any CRKT knife against an S30 Native for price/performance ratio? CRKT's "premium" steel is AUS 8, and many of those knives go for about the same price as a Spydie Native.

Thom
 
For the average person price to preformance ratio is meaningless. The vast majority of people never use a knife to the point they will see the difference in steels.
 
Dirk said:
For the average person price to preformance ratio is meaningless. The vast majority of people never use a knife to the point they will see the difference in steels.
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ditto on that, i still like the better stuff anyway though!
 
Cliff Stamp said:
The Benchmade likely has a much more obtuse edge angle.

-Cliff
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Obtuse is a larger angle? 40° is more obtuse than 30°?

If so, don´t you remember the past discussions around sebbies? They come with 40°+ angles.

BMs are lower. Maybe you consider ATS34 times? :D

Every BM i get the last year, has had an angle around 30° and if i remember right, the Skirmish i held in hand had that too.

I would guess, those both knifes were of different hardness.
 
I pryed with my 630 the other day. Got locked out of work, and didn't have a choice or I wouldn't have. Got door open just fine nothing happening to the knife....not even a scratch or blade play. Try to avoid prying with a folder as much as possible.

Course if I wasn't so tired I would have remembered I had my camp tramp in my bag :o

I also like the look of sebenza.
 
Thom Lambert said:
You can't be serious. How can you compare any CRKT knife against an S30 Native for price/performance ratio? CRKT's "premium" steel is AUS 8, and many of those knives go for about the same price as a Spydie Native.

Thom
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its not like AUS8 is crappy steel or anything. Its not as good as ATS34 or VG10, but for the vast majority of people, it is more than adiquite. And it takes an awesome edge. Personally I have never cared all that much for the look of most CRKT knives, but there is nothing wrong with AUS8.
 
Thanks for the update, my experience with the two brands was the opposite. Nice to see that Benchmade has lowered thier angles. If Reeves is running them thicker and they are more fragile then that is a fairly large problem. It may be just a burnt edge. Try a complete resharpening and see if the problem still holds.

-Cliff
 
Dirk said:
For the average person price to preformance ratio is meaningless. The vast majority of people never use a knife to the point they will see the difference in steels.
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This is certainly true... now only if I was the average person then I wouldn't need good steel. The reality however is that I use my knives super-hard and I have broken more than I can count. So please keep those reviews and comparisons coming for people like me! :)
 
Well, a lot of guys buy cars with far more horsepower than they need, and better handling and racing tuned suspensions they will never take full advantage of, but they still want them, don't they. :rolleyes:

I have very little in my daily routine that requires an extremely heavy duty, or expensive knife, but, I still appreciate quality, and superior design and materials when I see them, in a knife, a car, a gun, whatever, and, I do not ever buy junk, I guess this makes me silly, but you know what, I earn my money, and I'll spend it on what I choose, not what you think I need. :p
 
Then you have the really crappy steel that wont even take an edge. (My chinese Boker knockoff is chipping after i thinned it)
 
Megalobyte said:
Well, a lot of guys buy cars with far more horsepower than they need, and better handling and racing tuned suspensions they will never take full advantage of, but they still want them, don't they. :rolleyes:

I have very little in my daily routine that requires an extremely heavy duty, or expensive knife, but, I still appreciate quality, and superior design and materials when I see them, in a knife, a car, a gun, whatever, and, I do not ever buy junk, I guess this makes me silly, but you know what, I earn my money, and I'll spend it on what I choose, not what you think I need. :p
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Well said!

Paul
 
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