best backpack?

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No I am not going to throw out the typical question "what's the best backpack" and let everyone have at it.
Rather, I want to ask what are the things I need to look for in a hiker's/backpacker's backpack for 2-3 day journeys?
then, if you can think of examples of packs that exhibit the features you think are essential, can you list 'em?
Thanks all!
Merry Christmas!
 
waterproof

that's the big one for me. sucks to get drenched, and then only have more drenched clothes to change into.

you'll have a tough time finding packs that are waterproof, too, unless you want to do the wet weather bag insert or get a rain cover.

ortleib makes waterproof gear-- do a search on waterproof packs in these forums-- i asked this question a while ago and ended up getting an ortleib. it's certainly waterproof and is a reasonable pack. i don't really much like it though, for a few picky reasons.

also consider chrome bags. they have some cool backpacks that look dorky but are probably built solid.


i guess, another popular thing to look for is bags that are modular. that is, lots of attachement points for little pouches and accessories. MOLLE has really changed the way we look at our equipment.
 
Good water resistance is up there for importantance for sure. For a multi-day pack, I want a really good suspension system as well. Nice hip pads and shoulder straps for good support. I also like a pack that can compress really well. I've got a couple Arctery'x packs that are very good. Pricey, but built for the long haul.
 
I like the Alpine style (tall and thin) ones like Lowe. Seems to me that the load you are carrying is rotating weight when you walk. The closer and narrower that 'cylinder' then the less fatigue. I noticed on a couple of rugged/scrambly treks that this style also makes you more agile when climbing over rocks etc.

Durability is not a huge issue for me - my Lowe Cerro Torre is pretty lightweight nylon but I've got barely a mark on it after a few years of carrying through prickly scrub and being set down on sharp rocks. Some of those heavy duty cordura and canvas packs can weigh a whole extra kilo.

Niether is being water proof. Everying that needs to stay dry in my pack lives in it's own water proof stuffsack. My pack can (and has) survive a full dunking in a river crossing without getting anything important wet.

One thing I'm missing from my Pack is large side pockets.

For 2-3 day journeys you probably only need a 60-75 litre pack also. I've found that it's only 5 days + worth of food starts to max out the space in my pack.

Here's me and my Lowe on the Cape to Cape walk in west oz

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waterproof

that's the big one for me. sucks to get drenched, and then only have more drenched clothes to change into.

you'll have a tough time finding packs that are waterproof, too, unless you want to do the wet weather bag insert or get a rain cover.

If you can't find a reasonably priced waterproof pack, you can double-bag the contents with a drawstring-style trash bag, and use ziplock bags for items in the top and side compartments. A mil-spec poncho will cover both you and your pack.
 
Right after rainproofing your pack - which is like the phrase "knife self-defense," you will want to carry your heaviest item in an accessible manner - water. Strongly consider whether you want bottles or a hydration bladder because it will make a big difference in the style of pack you get. Hydration bladders and tubes require engineered pockets and ports, shoulder straps with hold downs, etc. Bottles need outside pockets for accessibility.
This can influence your style of hiking/camping - short journeys with lots of on-site camp time work better with bottles, long walks with just-before dark campsites fare better with bladders. The amount of water in the environment and style of purifier figure in, too.
For three day hikes you could almost go with a good no-frame rucksack/patrol bag with hip belt - in warmer weather. Humping a tent and sleeping bag almost requires a frame of some sort.
 
The british Bergen pack or a modern version seems to be the best big pack.
The mutharucka from One shot tactical in edmonton is the ultimate bergen.
I have a small alpine pack that I removed the waist belt on that works great as a midsized pack for anything to big for a small or assault style pack. The padded thick straps are awesome and with the 2 aluminium sticks for a frame is quite comfy. It predates hydration bladders though.It is the best thing for carrying heavy loads through airports and bus stations.
For a small assault pack I have a old MEC that is just one huge sack with huge zippers and an exellent drag handle.

For around town I have a tactical man purse ,a canadian issue butt bag that holds all the stuff we need a purse for ,gerber multitool, maglight,byrd crossbill or CRKT sting depending on mood,Spy sunglasses,pen , rolaids,
antique cigerette case with ipod ,sennienhieser in ear phones and thumb drive, wallet ,keeys and 3 seperate key fob controller thingy's. It is a bit geeky but is still a big improvement on the bright yellow neon fanny pack I had in the 90's.
 
Ahhh, backpacks. I have had an interest in backpacks ever since I was a kid. I am not too informed on which would be "the best" but I do know that of the ones that i have, I like my North Face the best. As another forumite stated, waterproof is a HUGE thing. Gettting your goods wet when hiking or on a temporary mainstay in the woods can be bad if you have things in your pack that you MUST keep dry. I also have a really nice LL Bean pack that I got years back that has been nothing short of reliable and tough. But I would highly suggest getting one of those terribly overpriced dry sacks that you can pack all your gear in and then place that in your pack. If you do that and your pack is water resistant, then the things you need to keep dry WILL STAY dry regardless of the weather and the amount of rain you come in contact with. Good luck!
 
Start with a really good suspension. Then look for good quality sewing with all seams covered. Modern materials have good durability.

All a lot of good lightweight stuff sacks and freezer zip lock bags.

Having your coffee jar come unscrewed in your pack sucks big time (been there, lesson learned). Loose clothing in your pack is bad news. Mixing clean and soiled clothing in one stuff sack is a bad idea as well.
 
http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?Razor-10# makes some of the best, high tech packs out there, in all sizes. My Arcteryx day pack is still going strong after ten+ years and many adventures.

Many models offer water resistant zippers and construction. "Waterproof" is always a relative term with packs.

Arcteryx is pricey but the features, durability and potential for long life could actually save money over replacements in the long run.
 
For up to a week I use a Granite Gear Vapor Trail. Generally, essential features for me are a built-in sleeve for a water bladder, and ample straps for synching-down, compressing and lashing my load.

No doubt you already know this and can see in this thread, what is "essential" really varies among users. Perhaps the only quality in a good pack that is truly essential -- and easily overlooked in the age of internet shopping -- is FIT. One pack's medium size will be different from another, and even if we both have 19-inch backs (length of spine from the "7th vertebra to iliac crest"), that doesn't guarantee that what I find comfortable and snug will feel the same for you. If you haven't done so, you should try out as many packs as possible in at least one good store, a few if possible. REI or similar stores will let you load up different packs with stuff and walk around the store with each to see what works for you. Even if you decide to purchase online, a good pack, like shoes, is gear that really needs to be tried out in-person before buying.

Internal frame is probably also essential for any serious backpacking, 2+ days. Beyond that, there are two main types of packs: those with lots of pockets besides the main compartment, and those without. The former is preferred by those who like to keep things separately organized, and who need/want to access things fairly often along the trail or in the bush. The latter is for those (like me) who prefer to drop everything into one big compartment and don't need easy access throughout the day, and just unload for the night. These packs also tend to center the pack weight more closely inline with your spine (better balance), although this is not always the case. I like the GG Vapor Trail because it's basically an old-school rucksack design in new, ultralight materials.

I agree with Ming65, waterproofness and durability aren't significant issues. Most modern packs are made of water-resistant synthetics that easily repel even sustained light showers. Heavy rain (not safe to hike in, but it can happen if you need to reach point B before nightfall) can work its way through any exposed seam and nearly all zippers, however advertised to the contrary. The best protection is a rain cover that covers all zippers and seams, with relevant items drypacked inside. Of course condensation can happen in any pack, the more waterproof (non-breathable) perhaps the more likely due to poorly packed wet items (e.g., sweaty clothes). In terms of durability, even "ultralight" packs from the more reputable makers will easily survive ordinary scrapes and scuffs through trees and brush. Often, packs get damaged from the inside out due to poor packing. Sure, seams can come loose and material can tear on even the most bombproof pack, no matter how heavy-duty; but that's why you packed needle-and-thread and duct tape in your repair kit, right?

Hope this helps. Cheers --

Glen
 
For that short of a trip I like to go really light. For under 3 days I try to take no more than 30 pounds or so, but that's pretty difficult sometimes with it being so wet where I am and the weather changing so quickly. Gregory makes some great lightweight packs. I would like for a pack size of at least 2800 cubic inches no more than 4000 but that is my preference. You may find you need more room. I prefer to have pocketso n the outside to keep extra socks, jackets and foot powder close at hand. I find it tiring to dig through a 1 chamber pack again and again. At around 25 pounds having no frame starts to get uncomfortable, at around 35 it is really unpleasant. I prefer internal packs greatly over external. I wouldn't worry about finding a waterproof pack.. You can find lightweight under 6 oz pack covers that will do the trick if you need it. I also like to have lashing points on the outside to tie up ski poles, walking sticks, snowshoes when not in use. Lastly, make sure it is comfortable. Load it up in the store and walk around with it a while to see how it feels.
 
A light rain at 110 kms an hour on a motorbike can work it's way through anything. The absoulute best way to pack stuff is with a foodsaver vacum system. The bags can be made as ong as you want and can be used hundreds of times. It makes stuff really really small but clothes get very wrinkled.

If it is comfort you want and you are not worried about waterproof check out the oldschool trapper nelson pack made from canvas with a wood frame.
I used one backpacking around BC for years and it was great.
 
Colin Fletcher's book The Complete Walker is IMHO the best guide to packs (and everything else backpacking).
 
Some good suggestions in this thread!

Also...,don't forget to check out the Berghaus "Vulcan" and the Lowe Alpine "Saracen" and,maybe,something from Karrimor.
These are all some of the best backpacks money can buy!!!
Berghaus and Lowe Alpine beïng the packs of choice for the Dutch Special Forces!!! (Green Berets & Marines)
 
I'd go for Lowe Alpine packs over Berghaus from past experience of durabilty.

I don't like packs which have huge bulky padding which can just absorb water, also softer padding will move out of place more then firmer stuff, my lowe alpine straps are very stiff from side to side and stay in place much better then some other straps, cheaper packs will tend to skimp on zips so if your going for lower price packs it's best to get one where a zip failure isn't huge problem if your out and about, a pocket not working you can deal with, an opening at the bottom of your pack (where the zip will be under a lot of strain) is a major PITA

Try the pack on with more weight then you expect to carry if possible, walk around the shop and go upstairs to get a feel for how it will move with you when your walking
 
Thanks for the suggestions everyone!
I will certainly be trying some stuff on for fit, and also -- trial and error is king. I wil figure out my likes and dislikes as I go out, keeping in mind all your thoughts.
Thanks again, and Happy Happy New Year!
 
Osprey makes some bombproof packs with exceptional suspension. I have a couple of their packs, and the way they contour around my hip bones and shoulders is nothing short of amazing.

Check out Osprey and Arcteryx--pricy but extremely comfortable and well made.

See if you can get to an REI, EMS or similar store and try various packs out under weight. You can load them up with sand bags in the store and test out how they ride.
 
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